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    • Pertti
      Pertti last edited by

      Hi dear friends! I use Cura to prepare gcodes. There the material's printing temperature is set to 250C. My printer starts nicely by 250C but after a while it drops to 200C. I have no idea where the 200C comes from.
      Here's config.g

      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M305 P1 T110000 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 oli100000
      M143 H1 S290 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
      M305 P2 T100000 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
      M143 H2 S290 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

      Pertti
      “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
      George M. Moore, Jr.

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      • Veti
        Veti last edited by

        check cura for first layer temperature and temperature.

        open the generated g code and look for M104 commands

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        • Pertti
          Pertti last edited by

          @Veti said in Printing temperature drops down:

          M104
          Gcode start:
          ;FLAVOR:RepRap
          ;TIME:1672
          ;Filament used: 2.09943m, 0m
          ;Layer height: 0.2
          ;MINX:88.807
          ;MINY:86.242
          ;MINZ:0.3
          ;MAXX:181.193
          ;MAXY:183.758
          ;MAXZ:17.9
          ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.5.0
          T0
          M190 S60
          M104 S260
          -nothing between-
          -at the end:
          M107
          M104 S0
          M140 S0
          ;Retract the filament
          G10 P0 S0 R140
          G10 P1 S0 R140
          G92 E1
          G1 E-1 F300
          G28 X0 Y0
          M84
          M83 ;relative extrusion mode
          M104 S0temp.JPG

          Pertti
          “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
          George M. Moore, Jr.

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          • Pertti
            Pertti @Pertti last edited by

            @Pertti
            Also initial temperature is set to 260 (sorry, not 250 as above)

            Pertti
            “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
            George M. Moore, Jr.

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            • Phaedrux
              Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

              Is it actually set to 200? Your chart looks like it may have had a temp excursion and then dropped. Do you see any errors in the gcode console?

              Can you share your full config.g and a sample gcode file?

              What firmware version and DWC version are you using?

              Please post the results of M122 and M98 P"config.g"

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              • Pertti
                Pertti last edited by

                One thing that would do this is the standby temperature. The machine is a dual-extruder. Now I used only E0 extruder.

                Console:
                5.10.2020 klo 22.06.01 Upload of arcus e 1-200.gcode successful after 2s
                5.10.2020 klo 22.06.01 G28
                File 0:/gcodes/arcus e 1-200.gcode selected for printing
                5.10.2020 klo 22.06.01 M32 "0:/gcodes/arcus e 1-200.gcode"
                File 0:/gcodes/arcus e 1-200.gcode selected for printing
                5.10config.g .2020 klo 22.05.51 Connected to 192.168.1.11arcus e 1-200.gcode temp3.JPG

                Pertti
                “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                George M. Moore, Jr.

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                • Pertti
                  Pertti @Pertti last edited by

                  @Pertti
                  I also have problems with the thermistor, I think it gives too high values, 260C seems to be good for PLA, resistance at 26C is 108000 kOhm. That's why I want to have a higher temperature.

                  Pertti
                  “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                  George M. Moore, Jr.

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                  • Pertti
                    Pertti @Pertti last edited by

                    @Pertti 5.10.2020 klo 22.30.08 M122
                    === Diagnostics ===
                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                    Board ID: 08DGM-956GU-DJ3SW-6JKDG-3SD6N-1UM3G
                    Used output buffers: 1 of 24 (11 max)
                    === RTOS ===
                    Static ram: 25680
                    Dynamic ram: 93940 of which 0 recycled
                    Exception stack ram used: 312
                    Never used ram: 11140
                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,564) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3748) IDLE(ready,160)
                    Owned mutexes:
                    === Platform ===
                    Last reset 00:00:31 ago, cause: software
                    Last software reset at 2020-10-05 22:29, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11024 bytes (slot 0)
                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                    Error status: 0
                    Free file entries: 10
                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                    MCU temperature: min 32.1, current 32.3, max 32.7
                    Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                    Date/time: 2020-10-05 22:30:00
                    Cache data hit count 107113306
                    Slowest loop: 1.35ms; fastest: 0.07ms
                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                    === Move ===
                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 169, MaxWait: 0ms
                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                    === DDARing ===
                    Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                    === Heat ===
                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                    === GCodes ===
                    Segments left: 0
                    Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                    Movement lock held by null
                    http is idle in state(s) 0
                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                    file is idle in state(s) 0
                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                    aux is idle in state(s) 0
                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                    Code queue is empty.
                    === Network ===
                    Slowest loop: 15.48ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                    • WiFi -
                      Network state is running
                      WiFi module is connected to access point
                      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                      WiFi firmware version 1.23
                      WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:63:69:18
                      WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 24480
                      WiFi IP address 192.168.1.11
                      WiFi signal strength -37dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                    Pertti
                    “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                    George M. Moore, Jr.

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                    • Pertti
                      Pertti @Pertti last edited by

                      @Pertti M98 P
                      Warning: Macro file not found.

                      Pertti
                      “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                      George M. Moore, Jr.

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                      • Pertti
                        Pertti @Pertti last edited by

                        @Pertti
                        Material settings show standby temperature 150C.

                        Pertti
                        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                        George M. Moore, Jr.

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                        • Phaedrux
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux last edited by

                          @Phaedrux said in Printing temperature drops down:

                          M98 P"config.g"

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                          • Phaedrux
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Pertti last edited by

                            @Pertti said in Printing temperature drops down:

                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later

                            For starters I suggest you update to firmware 2.05.1.

                            Upload this zip file as is (don't extract it) to the /sys folder via DWC.

                            https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/2.05.1/Duet2Firmware-2.05.1.zip

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                            • Pertti
                              Pertti last edited by

                              OK, firmware now 2.05.1. Thank's for smooth installing.
                              I repeated printing, but sorry to say, nothing changed.temp4.JPG

                              Pertti
                              “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                              George M. Moore, Jr.

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                              • Phaedrux
                                Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux last edited by

                                @Phaedrux said in Printing temperature drops down:

                                Is it actually set to 200? Your chart looks like it may have had a temp excursion and then dropped. Do you see any errors in the gcode console?

                                Can you share your full config.g and a sample gcode file?

                                What firmware version and DWC version are you using?

                                Please post the results of M122 and M98 P"config.g"

                                Config.g and sample gcode please

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                                • Pertti
                                  Pertti last edited by

                                  Ok, tomorrow.

                                  Pertti
                                  “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                  George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                  • Pertti
                                    Pertti last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux said in Printing temperature drops down:

                                    M98 P"config.g"

                                    M122.txt M98 Pconfig.g config.g arcus e 1-200.gcode

                                    Pertti
                                    “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                    George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                    • Pertti
                                      Pertti last edited by

                                      I can avoid the problem by writing lines M104 S250 to the Cura machine settings/extruder starting code.
                                      That means that I have to configure a new printer for every material, but that is actually good, because then you have all things set up for every material.

                                      Pertti
                                      “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                      George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                      • Phaedrux
                                        Phaedrux Moderator last edited by Phaedrux

                                        You've got some problems in your config.g

                                        6.10.2020 klo 8.59.59	M98 P"config.g"
                                        Error: Bad command: 0:/sys/config.g
                                        HTTP is enabled on port 80
                                        FTP is disabled
                                        TELNET is disabled
                                        Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 480C.
                                        Warning: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 524C.
                                        Error: G10: Attempt to set/report offsets and temperatures for non-existent tool: 2
                                        

                                        First, at the very first line you're missing a ; to comment out the file name and path. 0:/sys/config.g

                                        The heater warnings are nothing serious. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/FAQ#Section_M307_Heater_1_appears_to_be_over_powered_If_left_on_at_full_power_its_temperature_is_predicted_to_reach_521C

                                        Error: G10: Attempt to set/report offsets and temperatures for non-existent tool: 2
                                        The tool definitions are incorrect and may be part of the problem with cura. The second tool has a G10 targetting T2, but there is only T0 and T1. G10 P2 R140 That should be G10 P1 R140 S0 Plus you have a redundant tool command for T0 at the end.

                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P1 R140 S0                                  ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        M563 P1 D1 H2 F0                                ; define tool 1
                                        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                                        G10 P2 R140 					; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                                                            
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 ; tool 0 uses extruder 0, heater 1 (and fan 0)
                                        
                                        0:/sys/config.g
                                        ; Leaprog 200804
                                        ; TITAN AERO
                                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ; Tässä versiossa y=z akselissa
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.5 on Sat Jan 11 2020 15:38:33 GMT+0200 (Itä-Euroopan normaaliaika)
                                        ; General preferences ;M303 H2 S240 ;Auto tuning Heater2
                                        
                                        			
                                        G90                                             ; send absolute coordinates... M143 
                                        M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"Leapfrog-Duet"                              ; set printer name
                                        
                                        	; Network
                                        M552 S1                                         ; enable network
                                        M586 P0 S1                                      ; enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S0                                      ; disable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S0                                      ; disable Telnet
                                        
                                        	; Drives dualextruder
                                        M569 P0 S0                                      ; physical drive 0 goes forwards  X
                                        M569 P1 S1                                      ; physical drive 1 goes backwards Y
                                        M569 P2 S1                                      ; physical drive 2 goes backwards Z
                                        M569 P3 S1                                      ; physical drive 3 goes backwards E0
                                        M569 P4 S0                                      ; physical drive 4 goes forwards E1
                                        
                                         	;; Drives titan aero
                                         	;M569 P0 S0                                      ; physical drive 0 goes forwards  X
                                         	;M569 P1 S1                                      ; physical drive 1 goes  backwards Y
                                         	;M569 P2 S1                                      ; physical drive 2 goes forwards Z
                                         	;M569 P3 S0                                      ; physical drive 3 goes backwards E0 ;TITAN AERO
                                         	;M569 P4 S0                                      ; physical drive 4 goes backwards E1
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        ;M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4                              ; set drive mapping
                                        M584 X0 Z1 Y2 E3:4                              ; set drive mapping vaihdettu z-y
                                        
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        						
                                        M92 X400.00 Y66.67 Z654.02 E144.00:144.00 	;dualextruder set steps per mm	M92 X66.67 Y66.67 Z654.02 E137.00:137.00
                                        	;M92 X66.67 Y66.67 Z654.02 E837.00:93.00 ;titan aero; set steps per mm
                                        
                                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        
                                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        
                                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        
                                        ;M906 X800 Y1600 Z1600 E800:800 I30              ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M906 X800 Y800 Z1600 E800:800 I30              ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent 
                                        
                                        M84 S30                                         ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1  
                                        
                                        
                                        M208 X270 Y300 Z200 S0                          ; set axis maxima
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 Z0 S1                                      ; set active low and disabled endstops M574 Z0 S0
                                        M574 X1 Y1 S1                                   ; set active high endstops
                                        
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000                           ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                        M557 X15:200 Y15:195 S20                        ; define mesh grid
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        	;M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700                     ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                        	;M143 H0 S120                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        	;M305 P1 T100 B3950 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                        	;M143 H1 S280                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                        	;M305 P2 T100 B3950 R4700                   	 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                                        	;M143 H2 S280  
                                        
                                        
                                        M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M305 P1 T110000  B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 oli100000
                                        ;M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; titan aero
                                        M143 H1 S290 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C  
                                        M305 P2 T100000  B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                                        M143 H2 S290 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
                                        
                                         
                                        M307 H1 A455.9 C183.2 D17.7 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                                        M307 H2 A499.7 C172.7 D10.4 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                                        
                                        M570 H1 P4 T25 s1
                                        M570 H2 P10 T25
                                        M570 S120
                                        
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        M106 P0 S0.5 I0 F500 H1 T45 
                                        M106 P1 T45 H1
                                        
                                        ;M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M106 P1 T45 B0.1 H1 ; enable thermostatic mode for fan 1
                                        M106 P0 T45 B0.1 H1 ; enable thermostatic mode for fan 2
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P1 R140 S0                                  ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        M563 P1 D1 H2 F0                                ; define tool 1
                                        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                                        G10 P2 R140 					; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                                                            
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 ; tool 0 uses extruder 0, heater 1 (and fan 0)
                                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                                        

                                        Your fan settings are unusual. You've defined fan0 and fan1 twice, but differently. The second definition overrides the first.

                                        M106 P0 S0.5 I0 F500 H1 T45 
                                        M106 P1 T45 H1
                                        
                                        ;M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        ;M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H-1                          ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M106 P1 T45 B0.1 H1 ; enable thermostatic mode for fan 1
                                        M106 P0 T45 B0.1 H1 ; enable thermostatic mode for fan 2
                                        

                                        Plus, the way you have the fans setup with fan0 and fan1 being thermostatically controlled, but your tool definition has fan0 as the part cooling fan. So you need to decide what your intention is and wire it correctly. Which fan is on which tool? Which fan is thermostatically controlled for a heatsink, and which is a part cooling fan.

                                        Your slicer start gcode sets temps using G10 P0 R140 S205 G10 P1 R140 S205 is that where you see the temp drop down? That would match your graph. Is that after you had made the change you mention?

                                        ;FLAVOR:RepRap
                                        ;TIME:952
                                        ;Filament used: 0.245115m, 0m
                                        ;Layer height: 0.15
                                        ;MINX:115.018
                                        ;MINY:109.322
                                        ;MINZ:0.3
                                        ;MAXX:144.369
                                        ;MAXY:160.669
                                        ;MAXZ:50.1
                                        ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.5.0
                                        T0
                                        M190 S60
                                        M104 S260
                                        M109 S260
                                        M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
                                        G28 ;Home
                                        G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
                                        ;Prime the extruder
                                        
                                        
                                        G10 P0 R140 S205
                                        G10 P1 R140 S205
                                        G92 E0
                                        G1 F200 E3
                                        G92 E0
                                        M83 ;relative extrusion mode
                                        G1 F1500 E-5.5
                                        ;LAYER_COUNT:333
                                        ;LAYER:0
                                        M106 S25.5
                                        G0 F3600 X116.544 Y111.12 Z0.3
                                        

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                                        • Pertti
                                          Pertti last edited by

                                          Thanks a lot, Phaedrux. You gave me a good lesson. I think I need a couple of days to handle this. Anyway, line "G10 P0 R140 S205 G10 P1 R140 S205" has been there before I changed machine settings in Cura. The temperature matches reality.
                                          The fans are something I need to take a look at. My previous board did not function these things at all, so I connected fans to the power supply.
                                          BR Pertti

                                          Pertti
                                          “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                          George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                          • Phaedrux
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @Pertti last edited by

                                            @Pertti said in Printing temperature drops down:

                                            Anyway, line "G10 P0 R140 S205 G10 P1 R140 S205" has been there before I changed machine settings in Cura. The temperature matches reality.

                                            I think if you remove those G10 lines from your start gcode you will solve the temperature drop problem.

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