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    • dc42
      dc42 administrators last edited by

      On behalf of the Duet3D team, I am pleased to announce the release of software package 3.3beta3. This release brings the following:

      • Global variables are now included in the object model. This means they can be viewed in the DWC Object Model browser and can be accessed by SBC add-ons.
      • The DWC Object Model browser now provides a summary of what each value means
      • RRF and DWC now support accelerometers (currently in standalone mode only) in preparation for the forthcoming support for input shaping. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Accelerometers.
      • Many other minor improvements and bug fixes

      RRF release notes: https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/wiki/Changelog-RRF-3.x-Beta-&-RC#reprapfirmware-33beta3
      DWC release notes: https://github.com/Duet3D/DuetWebControl/releases/tag/v3.3-b3
      DSF release notes: https://github.com/Duet3D/DuetSoftwareFramework/releases/tag/v3.3-b3

      Users of Duet + SBC can upgrade from the unstable package server.

      Users of Duet in standalone mode can upgrade using the files at https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.3beta3. The IAP files have not changed but they are included in this release because some users may need to re-upload them to put them in the correct folder on the SD card.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • carcamerarig
        carcamerarig @dc42 last edited by

        @dc42
        Perfect thanks DC, exciting with accelerometer support too, which models are supported?

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        • carcamerarig
          carcamerarig last edited by

          No time to waste 🙂
          Big thumbs up to the D3D team.

          Screenshot 2021-04-22 at 22.02.47.png Screenshot 2021-04-22 at 22.02.57.png

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          • ctilley79
            ctilley79 @carcamerarig last edited by

            @carcamerarig nice. I’ll try running this version and see if they fixed it inadvertently lol

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            • Luke'sLaboratory
              Luke'sLaboratory @dc42 last edited by

              @dc42
              Installing now!

              Question on one of the listed internal changes- "A separate task is now used to finalize moves for execution"
              Is this related to the can sync problems that were identified earlier in the beta cycle? or is this related to other activities internally?

              Luke

              Luke
              http://lukeslab.online

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              • LeckieTech
                LeckieTech @dc42 last edited by

                @dc42 YES! M150 finally controls some 2811 LEDs on my Wifi2! Thank you for this!

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                • janusofdoors
                  janusofdoors last edited by

                  Can you elaborate on why the accelerometer support is for standalone mode only?

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                  • Luke'sLaboratory
                    Luke'sLaboratory @janusofdoors last edited by

                    @vishiano
                    SBC's add an extra layer of "fun" which is why they test it out initially on standalone units.

                    Luke
                    http://lukeslab.online

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                    • OwenD
                      OwenD @dc42 last edited by

                      @dc42
                      From the change log
                      Previously, when daemon.g was not found or after it had finished running, RRF paused for 1 second before trying to open it again. That time has been increased to 10 seconds to reduce the load on the SD card. If you need a daemon to execute more often than once every 10 seconds, use a loop inside the daemon.g file.

                      Can you expand on what problems were being experienced using the 1 second timing?
                      Whilst it is simple to run a loop within daemon.g it would be counter productive if the consequences are dire.
                      Also does the 10 second count begin when daemon.g starts or finishes?
                      Running a loop only makes sense if the former applies.
                      Presumably, in either circumstance, daemon.g can only be run once. i.e. if it's open, then it's skipped until the next cycle.
                      I have nothing currently in use that would suffer drastically from a 10 second cycle, but others may have.

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                      • dc42
                        dc42 administrators @OwenD last edited by

                        @owend said in Software package 3.3beta3 released:

                        Can you expand on what problems were being experienced using the 1 second timing?
                        Whilst it is simple to run a loop within daemon.g it would be counter productive if the consequences are dire.
                        Also does the 10 second count begin when daemon.g starts or finishes?
                        Running a loop only makes sense if the former applies.
                        Presumably, in either circumstance, daemon.g can only be run once. i.e. if it's open, then it's skipped until the next cycle.
                        I have nothing currently in use that would suffer drastically from a 10 second cycle, but others may have.

                        We had some evidence suggesting that the overhead of opening (or trying to open) the daemon.g file every second might be causing print slowdown and quality issues when printing a long sequence of very short moves, because of contention for the SD card. Increasing the delay to 10 seconds reduces this overhead by 90%.

                        The first time that RRF tries to open daemon.g, the delay before trying to open it is one second as before so that daemon.g starts up quickly if it exists. Subsequent times (after failing to open daemon.g, or daemon.g finishing executing), the delay is ten seconds.

                        I have it in mind to add a new M-code to start/stop execution of daemon.g instead.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • o_lampe
                          o_lampe @OwenD last edited by

                          @owend said in Software package 3.3beta3 released:

                          to reduce the load on the SD card

                          Why don't we load daemon.g into memory and start it from there? That way the SD-card would only read once.
                          In earlier posts, @dc42 mentioned there's plenty of RAM available on all Duet boards....

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                          • dc42
                            dc42 administrators @o_lampe last edited by

                            @o_lampe said in Software package 3.3beta3 released:

                            In earlier posts, @dc42 mentioned there's plenty of RAM available on all Duet boards....

                            There is plenty of RAM available on the MB6HC and a reasonable margin on the Duet 3 Mini. RAM is already tight on Duet 2.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • oc_geek
                              oc_geek @dc42 last edited by oc_geek

                              @dc42 i've updated to this rel (printer was off for long time) and i started to receive a rain of warnings and motors making clicking noises continuosly... powered off and powered on ...for the moment those seem gone.... what is that ??! everything is cool and at ambient temp....

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                              • Argo
                                Argo @oc_geek last edited by

                                @oc_geek

                                How long was it off? I mean from which firmware did you upgrade to 3.3 beta 3?

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                                • oc_geek
                                  oc_geek @Argo last edited by

                                  @argo was not asking you... 3H+ and update was from 3.3Beta2+

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                                  • dc42
                                    dc42 administrators @oc_geek last edited by

                                    @oc_geek, @Argo asked the right questions and saved me having to ask them.

                                    I suspect you had a bad connection in the ribbon cable between the Duet and DueX.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • oc_geek
                                      oc_geek @dc42 last edited by oc_geek

                                      @dc42 Duex ? Ribbon cable ? LOL

                                      I'm on a Mini 5+ / 2+ ....
                                      Actually the Third one as i had to replace them multiple times due to SD card soldering issues....

                                      I'm saying i had no issue before....I install the fw after printer is completely cold at warm temperature
                                      and those (nonsense) alarms came up..
                                      and the steppers started clicking endless like everyting is going to break apart..

                                      Take it or leave it...

                                      TBH i really have enough of the attitudes of yours of all the time i ave spent around this hw and i pretend answers from yourself
                                      not from experts popping up from nowere pretending to become Duet developers overnight (sorry no offence Argo...) i'm really fed up at this point

                                      out

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                                      • dc42
                                        dc42 administrators @oc_geek last edited by

                                        @oc_geek, please remain calm and polite, that's a condition of using this forum.

                                        You didn't say which board you were using in your original post, so I made the incorrect assumption that it was a Due + DueX as it had more than 5 stepper drivers.

                                        If that error only occurred immediately after you upgraded, and was cleared by powering off and on again, then it probably means that the TMC2209 drivers didn't immediately adapt to the change in baud rate between firmware 3.3beta2 and 3.3beta3.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • oc_geek
                                          oc_geek @dc42 last edited by oc_geek

                                          @dc42 ...it's becoming harder to...

                                          I had posted numerous times in the other thread about layers shifts and mesh issues so i assumed you remembered the config i had, but i understand you deal with 100s issues at day...so sorry if my post was not sharp clear from start

                                          Ok understand the explanation now
                                          My intention was to just report factual and that the steppers really click bad and don't stop doing that...
                                          Swtcing off - on appears to solve the issue.
                                          Perhaps it may be worth to mention somewhere...as someone may think things are breaking apart (as i did...)

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                                          • dc42
                                            dc42 administrators @oc_geek last edited by dc42

                                            @oc_geek, I'll mention it in the release notes in case anyone else experiences it. Thanks for your report.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                            • PaulHew
                                              PaulHew last edited by

                                              @dc42 said in Software package 3.3beta3 released:

                                              Users of Duet + SBC can upgrade from the unstable package server.

                                              Being totally new to using a SBC + Duet3, are these the correct commands to run to install this firmware?

                                              If you wish to use the latest unstable DSF components, you can run the following commands instead:
                                              
                                              wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d.gpg
                                              wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d-unstable.list
                                              sudo mv duet3d.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
                                              sudo mv duet3d-unstable.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
                                              sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/duet3d.gpg
                                              sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
                                              

                                              TIA Paul.

                                              RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                              Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                              • jay_s_uk
                                                jay_s_uk @PaulHew last edited by

                                                @paulhew yes, then sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

                                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                                • PaulHew
                                                  PaulHew @jay_s_uk last edited by

                                                  @jay_s_uk Thank you.
                                                  Need a button in DWC somewhere so it can be done!

                                                  P.

                                                  RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                                  Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                                  • Luke'sLaboratory
                                                    Luke'sLaboratory @dc42 last edited by Luke'sLaboratory

                                                    @dc42

                                                    We had some evidence suggesting that the overhead of opening (or trying to open) the daemon.g file every second might be causing print slowdown and quality issues when printing a long sequence of very short moves, because of contention for the SD card. Increasing the delay to 10 seconds reduces this overhead by 90%.

                                                    That's some interesting context

                                                    I hate to re-ask, but were those issues also related to the notes: "A separate task is now used to finalize moves for execution" where those short, small moves were causing issues?

                                                    My first print on 3.3beta3 didn't have the issues that have been plaguing me for a long while on my 6hc +3hc setup, So i was wondering what all went into the fix beyond the CAN sync issues from a few threads earlier

                                                    Luke
                                                    http://lukeslab.online

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                                                    • tristanryerparke
                                                      tristanryerparke last edited by

                                                      Thanks for all this great work guys, variables are already changing the game.
                                                      Are macro parameters supported on Duet3+SBC?
                                                      T

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