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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      Good evening, I'm trying to set the PA for my printer using ideamaker but it seems not to work...different settings from 0 to 1.9 has NO effect on the test print (a cube or a cylynder). The seam is always the same and behind it there's always a "blob" of filament....Is it slicer's fault or am I missing something? It seems like the nozzle makes a wipe around the seam even if it is disabled in the slicer....anyone who knows well Ideamaker should help me please?

      Thanks!

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @A Former User
        last edited by

        @the_dragonlord

        Did you follow all the suggestions in the PA tuning docs?

        Like disabling wiping and coasting in the slicer?

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

          @the_dragonlord

          Did you follow all the suggestions in the PA tuning docs?

          Like disabling wiping and coasting in the slicer?

          Frederick

          yes to both

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @A Former User
            last edited by

            @the_dragonlord

            You can enter M574 commands at the DWC Console during printing.

            Have you tried turning off my code (by setting g_pa_layer_count to 0) and just entering some really large values during a print to see if there is any effect?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Given your questions from your other thread about idea maker, it sounds like maybe the pressure advance commands weren't actually getting sent. Is that the case? Note you can also verify what the current values are by sending M572 D# where # is the extruder drive you want to check.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M572_Set_or_report_extruder_pressure_advance

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @phaedrux said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

                Given your questions from your other thread about idea maker, it sounds like maybe the pressure advance commands weren't actually getting sent. Is that the case? Note you can also verify what the current values are by sending M572 D# where # is the extruder drive you want to check.

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M572_Set_or_report_extruder_pressure_advance

                The comand is sent because if I type M572 during the print I see the correct setted values for PA

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User @A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

                  @the_dragonlord The nozzle always makes a curl behind when placeing the seam creating a blob so....this is what I get from prints regardless the PA setting I'm really driving crazy:
                  20210828_071314.jpg

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                  • gloomyandyundefined
                    gloomyandy @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @the_dragonlord Have you inspected the gcode to see what has been generated for the seam part of the print? Maybe ideamaker is doing something funky there?

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User @gloomyandy
                      last edited by

                      @gloomyandy said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

                      @the_dragonlord Have you inspected the gcode to see what has been generated for the seam part of the print? Maybe ideamaker is doing something funky there?

                      How can I identify the "seam portion" of the GCODE?

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                      • gloomyandyundefined
                        gloomyandy @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @the_dragonlord If you just create a simple cube and slice that is should be pretty obvious.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User @gloomyandy
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                          @gloomyandy said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

                          @the_dragonlord If you just create a simple cube and slice that is should be pretty obvious.

                          Here are the first layers of a GCODE for a simple cube....I can't see nothing particullary strange, do you?

                          ;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
G1 F2400 E-3.0000
G0 F9000 X155.292 Y155.292
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.585
G1 F1500 E3.0000
G1 F2400 X164.708 Y155.292 E0.6321
G1 X164.708 Y164.708 E0.6321
G1 X155.292 Y164.708 E0.6321
G1 X155.292 Y155.292 E0.6321
G0 F9000 X156.462 Y156.462
;PRINTING_TIME: 13
;REMAINING_TIME: 202
;LAYER:1
;Z:0.500
;HEIGHT:0.200
M106 S255
G4 P200
M106 S255
M104 T0 S205
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z0.500
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 17
;REMAINING_TIME: 198
;LAYER:2
;Z:0.700
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z0.700
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 21
;REMAINING_TIME: 193
;LAYER:3
;Z:0.900
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z0.900
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 25
;REMAINING_TIME: 189
;LAYER:4
;Z:1.100
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z1.100
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 29
;REMAINING_TIME: 185
;LAYER:5
;Z:1.300
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z1.300
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 33
;REMAINING_TIME: 181
;LAYER:6
;Z:1.500
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z1.500
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 37
;REMAINING_TIME: 177
;LAYER:7
;Z:1.700
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z1.700
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 41
;REMAINING_TIME: 173
;LAYER:8
;Z:1.900
;HEIGHT:0.200
;PRINTING: default-box.3mf
;PRINTING_ID: 0
M82
M98 P"Print_gcodes/pressure_advance_at_layer_change.g"
M83
G0 F900 Z1.900
G0 F9000 X155.225 Y155.225
;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
;WIDTH:0.450
G1 F600 X164.775 Y155.225 E0.3288
G1 X164.775 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y164.775 E0.3288
G1 X155.225 Y155.225 E0.3288
G0 F9000 X156.125 Y156.125
;PRINTING_TIME: 45
;REMAINING_TIME: 169
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                          • gloomyandyundefined
                            gloomyandy @A Former User
                            last edited by

                            @the_dragonlord That G0 at the end/start of each layer, seems a little odd to me, but maybe that is what your slicer does for the seam. I've no idea what impact that might have on pressure advance though.

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @the_dragonlord

                              You posted in another thread that the problem seems to be related to Ideamaker as PA worked with S3D?

                              Is that correct?

                              If so I will install Ideamaker and see if the same problem arises.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

                                @the_dragonlord

                                You posted in another thread that the problem seems to be related to Ideamaker as PA worked with S3D?

                                Is that correct?

                                If so I will install Ideamaker and see if the same problem arises.

                                Frederick

                                To be honest I don't know....now I'm uninstalling Ideamaker and try to reinstall it from scratch....then I'll see.....

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @gloomyandy
                                  last edited by

                                  @gloomyandy said in Pressure advance seems not to "work" using Ideamaker:

                                  @the_dragonlord That G0 at the end/start of each layer, seems a little odd to me, but maybe that is what your slicer does for the seam. I've no idea what impact that might have on pressure advance though.

                                  Yeah it looks like a wipe move.

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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