What was your first entry to DWC (serious question)
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@droftarts In reading that entire document on my phone, I learned many things, including the following: you should move your hot end, your bed, and your X/Z axies to test them, but you can’t do that until you’ve homed them, which you shouldn’t do until you’ve tested them.
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@droftarts I believe you, and I appreciate everything I get from you. I’m also interested in peoples physical experiences, because the things we do physically are very good at creating memories.
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@deckingman thanks for that. I think I’m concerned about having a computer on full-time when I’m printing. That’s a big energy footprint (2 devices, both of which are pulling up to 20 amps) so it’s costly. I’d like to avoid that.
I know I can see the interface on my phone, but I’d like a bit more real estate to look at.
And what happens if my phone dies? Of my laptop? Or my desktop? Or the cable company decides to work on their system, which involves shutting it all down?
And given that the things I often print take a very long time, if I loose the net, do I loose the print?
Mark
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@fcwilt I do!
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@mac said in What was your first entry to DWC (serious question):
That’s a big energy footprint (2 devices, both of which are pulling up to 20 amps)
Good grief! What kind of printer and computer do you have that is pulling that kind of power?
I have two computers and 5 printers and they don't pull that much.
Frederick
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@fcwilt it’s not the printer, but it’s power supple, and a computer with 12 cores.
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@mac said in What was your first entry to DWC (serious question):
I think I’m concerned about having a computer on full-time when I’m printing
You can switch off the computer during printing!
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@mac said in What was your first entry to DWC (serious question):
@fcwilt it’s not the printer, but it’s power supple, and a computer with 12 cores.
I have a computer with a 16 core CPU running off a 750 watt power supply which at most is going to draw 7-8 amps and everything - CPU, GPU, drives - would have to be going "full blast" - which is highly unlikely just connected to the DWC.
Frederick
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@mac As others have said, you can turn the computer off while printing. Everything runs off the sd card. DWC offers a convenient way to start a print, but from there on, unless you want to change anything such as the speed of extrusion factor multiplier, all it's doing is displaying information. You can dive in and out of DWC anytime you like and it won't have any detrimental impact on what the Duet board is doing.
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@mac if you don’t want to leave your PC on, and don’t want to monitor it on your phone, you can connect a PanelDue or 12864 display to the Duet for direct control. Unfortunately I don’t think your old display will work.
Ian
Edit: I see from your other thread that you already have a Fystec screen.
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@mac said in What was your first entry to DWC (serious question):
In reading that entire document on my phone
I'm starting to realise why you have so much problem finding the documentation, perhaps. If you are browsing the documentation wiki on your phone, the main menu is minimised. The main menu has the guides clearly shown, and within each guide the page contents shows each section:
If you're browsing on a phone, you don't see these. You can see the main menu; there's a round blue 'hamburger' icon in the bottom left of the page. Clicking this brings up the main menu. Unfortunately you still can't see the page contents.
Ian
TronXY X5S with Duet 3 MB6HC and Roto toolboard : Cartesian bed-slinger with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi and 1LC : RRP Fisher Delta v1 with Duet 2 Maestro : Polargraph with Duet 2 WiFi
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@droftarts we'll be fine. I'm looking at a 42" monitor, and my MacBook screen at the moment. all is good.
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@arnold_r_clark I'd love to, some-times, but the old Mac Pro is noisy as a chicken coop.
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Back on the original question - what to do with DWC.
You will need some user interface to your printer, at a minumum to get a file you want to print onto it. There are really two choices - first (and least expensive) DWC where you upload your file to be printed, then launch the print. Second is a PanelDu which gives you an SD card slot you can use to transfer your file and start the print.
I have both, and I find I use the DWC most often. For printing a file, I go to the garage, turn on the printer return to my workstation in the house (warmer in winter, cooler in summer). Then I use DWC to home the printer, upload a file to be printed, and start the print. Then I can shut off my computer and wait for the print to finish.
I use PanelDu most often when I'm making adjustments to the printer - changing the z-offset for a nozzle, re-leveling the bed, or starting the bed heater when I an in the garage turning the printer on. I've also written several macros that let me do things from PanelDu that I don't want to run into the house to do - create a new mesh compensation file (G29, but who can remember that?), unload the current filament, load a new filament, stuff like that.
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@mikeabuilder thanks! It makes sense, maybe because I was a GC for 20 years.
The Pdu is $154. A 10” Android tablet is $74. Did you considered that at some point?
Mac
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@Mac - I didn't think of a tablet instead of a PanelDu, mostly because I was new to all the Duet3D stuff. And I bought a PanelDu clone from China for about $70. If I were to start over, I'd seriously consider an interface that had a web browser so I could keep using DWC. There are more features accessible from the DWC than from PanelDu, but it does require the machine to be on the network - not an issue unless... I can't think of a reason.
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@mikeabuilder I bought a raspberry pi a few years back including a clone panel due. I think it’s 5 inches diagonally?
How did you connect your clone to your Duet board?
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My board is a Duet3 MB6HC and I bought a 7" PanelDue. I followed the instructions on this Duet3d Web page: https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Display_PanelDue
I used the ribbon cable method (vs 4 wire) because I wanted to be able to load print jobs via the SD card. I find that the DUet3D team has done a super job with the web pages, I just need to pay attention to the details.
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@mikeabuilder said in What was your first entry to DWC (serious question):
I used the ribbon cable method (vs 4 wire) because I wanted to be able to load print jobs via the SD card.
I did the same and have yet to actually use the SD card capability, the DWC is just so simple.
Frederick
