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    • dragonnundefined
      dragonn
      last edited by

      I have a modified bltouch witch is driven by a digital signal (0/1) not PWM. Can I use the Z_PROBE_MOD to control it? I am not sure if this is possible. As far I understand I need the mode 5 https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe I am right?

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      • dc42undefined
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        You might be able to do that, because in mode 5 the MOD pin is driven high during probing moves and low at other times.

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        • dragonnundefined
          dragonn
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          Sounds good, one question more - can I take 5V from the EXT 5V header? I tried putting jumper on the EXT 5V EN but I didn't measure 5V output on the header. I know it is for inputting the 5V not output, is they a diode with stops the voltage getting out?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
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            No, you can't take 5V from that header because there is a diode in between. Take it from the expansion header instead.

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            • dragonnundefined
              dragonn
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              Do I need put something into deployprobe.g? The input of the probe works fine but it isn't deployed. My endstop settings in config.g is:

              [[g-code]]
              ; Endstops
              M574 X2 Y2 S1                             ; Set active high endstops
              M574 Z1 S2                                ; Set endstops controlled by probe
              M558 P5 H5 F120 T6000 I1                  ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P600 X10 Y0 Z2.5                      ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X10:290 Y10:290 S20                  ; Define mesh grid
              
              
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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                Please explain what you mean by "The input of the probe works fine but it isn't deployed.".

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                • dragonnundefined
                  dragonn
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                  By input I mean that the status is read. When I pull the bltouch probe pin out manually z-probe sensor in ui changes it reading from 1000 to 0. But when I do Home Z they is no signal on MOD pin with puts the pin out (remember this is a moded bltouch - a high signal pull the pin out.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    Are you using a G30 command to home Z?

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                    • dragonnundefined
                      dragonn
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                      ohhh… yeah when using g30 it works fine. So I need to modify homez.g and homeall.g to use G30, I am right?

                      [[g-code]]
                      G91               ; relative positioning
                      G1 Z5 F6000       ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 S1 Z-355 F1800 ; move Z down until the switch triggers
                      G1 Z5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                      G1 S1 Z-355 F100  ; move slowly to Z axis endstop once more (second pass)
                      G92 Z2.5          ; set Z position to trigger height
                      
                      ```This is my homez.g now. How do I make double probing with G30? Not sure how since G30 doesn't have F parameter as I see.
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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Homing_Z.

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                        • dragonnundefined
                          dragonn
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                          Hmmm ok, G30 turns now the Z_MOD but only if the endstop isn't triggered and in my solution the endstop is triggered before Z_MOD goes high. When Z_MOD goes high the pin is pushed out and the endstop goes low so it is ready to trigger. Is they anyway to ignore "Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move"? I hope.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            Please post the gcode sequence you are using and explain what happens when.

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                            • dragonnundefined
                              dragonn
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                              [[language]]
                              G91                ; relative positioning
                              G1 Z5 F200 	   ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
                              G90 		   ; back to absolute mode
                              G1 X155 Y155 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                              G30 		   ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
                              G92 Z2           ; set Z position to trigger height
                              G90;
                              G1 Z0 F200
                              G1 Z5 F200
                              
                              ```My homez.g. The problem is my bltouch isn't triggered only when Z_MOD is HIGH. When G30 runs it is triggered and shows an error. Now G30 works I assume this way:
                              1\. Check if probe isn't triggered
                              2\. If not pull Z_MOD pin high
                              3\. Probe z-height.
                              
                              I need to change it behavior to this:
                              1\. pull Z_MOD high
                              2\. check if probe isn't triggered
                              3\. Probe z-height.
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                              • dragonnundefined
                                dragonn
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                                Bump, any update on that?
                                I made a video, maybe it will explain it better what is happening:
                                https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwvtikp42t1pcfm/VID_20180325_123803.3gp?dl=0
                                as you can see, the first homing failed. Z_MOD isn't pulled high because the probe is already triggered. The second time i pulled the pin by hand and now the homing is working like expected - the Z_MOD is pulled high (bltouch lights up).

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Does adding a delay before probing (R parameter in M558) make any difference?

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                                  • dragonnundefined
                                    dragonn
                                    last edited by

                                    No, I have already 2s delay. It is added only when I pull the pin manual before probing.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      I think you will need to connect that control wire to a pin on the expansion connector and control it using M42 commands in deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g. The problem is that RRF doesn't set the MOD pin high until the probing actually starts, which is too late for your probe. I can't change that behaviour without breaking other types of sensor.

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                                      • dragonnundefined
                                        dragonn
                                        last edited by

                                        Hmmmm what if I would add a transistor to the Z_MIN to block the signal when Z_MOD is low? I think this should work. I don't like the idea to wiring to the expansion connector because it looks ugly :D.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          You may need to add a delay to that circuit before the Z probe IN pin is allowed to go low, but I am sure that something like that could be made to work.

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