New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion



  • But, the Orion needs a piezo disc right? So independent from the way of mount the it is a better Version of the v1.1?



  • Orion has a pair of piezos mounted onto the PCB, rather than being on a wire



  • Okay, is possible to create a mount with vertical orientation? Like the one we have not so good experience with?



  • @hevilp probably, though I'm not sure if the Orion would be any advantage over the other board there.



  • @hevilp I'm developing a board similar to the Orion that might be more suitable for the kind of vertical orientation you're talking about. It's currently being tested, if you want to cancel your Orion order just contact me through the store.

    Idris



  • @Moriquendi , I used the contact Form on your site and wrote my wish to cancel the order, please do not ship it out and refund the money. Thanks



  • @hevilp Order cancelled and money refunded.



  • I see that DJDemonD is traveling, is it still possible to buy the Orion?



  • Absolutely, I took over running Precision Piezo in January though he still offers his help and advice when he's available. The Orion is available on the Precision Piezo website here

    Idris



  • My Orion groove mount snapped on Monday. I have ordered one made in ABS to get me printing again. But what are the OEM mounts made of? And would Taulman 910 be one of the best materials to print the parts in? I plan to print full sets of spare parts, as I should have in the first place.

    Since installing my Orion I have had a resonance at various points above the print surface. It seems to be an interaction between various parts of my CoreXY. It feels like it will shake things loose eventually somewhere, but so far it's not super obvious in the actual print. It's quite loud, and I could see it causing bed adhesion issues since the frequency seems perfect for shaking the parts loose from the bed. If the resonance originates in the Precision Piezo assembly like I think it does, this could be an achilles heel of this type of sensor.



  • @3dmntbighker said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

    My Orion groove mount snapped on Monday. I have ordered one made in ABS to get me printing again. But what are the OEM mounts made of? And would Taulman 910 be one of the best materials to print the parts in? I plan to print full sets of spare parts, as I should have in the first place.

    Since installing my Orion I have had a resonance at various points above the print surface. It seems to be an interaction between various parts of my CoreXY. It feels like it will shake things loose eventually somewhere, but so far it's not super obvious in the actual print. It's quite loud, and I could see it causing bed adhesion issues since the frequency seems perfect for shaking the parts loose from the bed. If the resonance originates in the Precision Piezo assembly like I think it does, this could be an achilles heel of this type of sensor.

    Here's my modified Orion groove mount that overcame some difficulties that I had with the original. It's somewhat beefier than the original. I printed the replacement in PLA and it hasn't broken yet.

    orion-groove-mount.zip

    This forum is damn annoying that it won't let you attach stl or zip files!



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  • @burtoogle said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

    Here's my modified Orion groove mount that overcame some difficulties that I had with the original. It's somewhat beefier than the original. I printed the replacement in PLA and it hasn't broken yet.

    Thanks, I'll try a couple of materials. At the very least the frequency of the resonance should change 😉 I plan to enclose the printer, so PLA is probably not the best choice.



  • The OEM mounts are made of ABS, layer adhesion is the critical factor and generally I think PLA has better layer adhesion than ABS, I keep tweaking the design and slicing it to try and improve the strength of the parts.

    If you run into resonance issues perhaps try changing your print speed? My printer sounded terrible at 6000mm/m (travel) speed but smooth as anything at 7000.

    Idris


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    @burtoogle said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

    This forum is damn annoying that it won't let you attach stl or zip files!

    stls should now work.. zips i would not be so happy about..



  • @moriquendi said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

    The OEM mounts are made of ABS, layer adhesion is the critical factor and generally I think PLA has better layer adhesion than ABS, I keep tweaking the design and slicing it to try and improve the strength of the parts.

    If you run into resonance issues perhaps try changing your print speed? My printer sounded terrible at 6000mm/m (travel) speed but smooth as anything at 7000.

    Idris

    Thanks for the pointers and info. I'll let you know how the Taulman 910 works posting here. The parts I ordered are white ABS. The groove mount seems like a good fit in my BondTech BMG, but I think there is room for improvement. Though I don't think that interface is the source of the resonance.

    edit:

    Used the ABS part to print your part in 910. 910 was impossible to print until I used glue stick on the PEI. And 910 warps like crazy, but it's a really good material from what I can tell. Your part seems to have a LOT less resonance so far. Apparently Taulman has Nylons with carbon fiber that supposedly helps the warping.

    edit2:
    Actually your part seems to have eliminated all of the resonance.... yay!!!!

    Bravo sir.



  • @Moriquendi Can you add the screw lengths required for the different configurations here or to the Thingiverse page?



  • I've just updated the thingiverse details, everything's up there now.

    Idris



  • @moriquendi said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

    I've just updated the thingiverse details, everything's up there now.

    Idris

    Thank you!



  • Hi,

    how big are the wholes in the Orion PCB?
    With the wholes big enough, it is possible to use it with Chimera/Cyclops aqua. It is needed to put the filament tube and the water tubes through the whole (each tube outer diameter is 4mm). A second solution would be 2 more wholes to have there for the water tubes.

    Kind regards


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