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    • Petr Kundefined
      Petr K @tecno
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      @tecno said in NPN sensor problem:

      M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

      M119
      Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: at min stop, Z probe: at min stop

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @Petr K
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        @petr-k said in NPN sensor problem:

        @tecno said in NPN sensor problem:

        M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

        M119
        Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: at min stop, Z probe: at min stop

        Well if the sensor was not actually triggered remove the ! character from the M558 and test again.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @Petr K
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          @petr-k if it's definitely a NPN NO sensor, then this command should work:

          M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

          unless the senor has high leakage current. If that's the case then you might need to add a pullup resistor (e.g. 10K) between the sensor output and +3.3V or +5V. But I've not heard of this happening before.

          Are you certain that it isn't a PNP output sensor?

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          • Petr Kundefined
            Petr K @dc42
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            @dc42 This is writes on sensor LJ20A3-10-Z/BX. Ok I will try pull-up, thanks.

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            • Petr Kundefined
              Petr K @dc42
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              @dc42 pullup did nothing

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              • Petr Kundefined
                Petr K @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt said in NPN sensor problem:

                M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

                Z probe value 1000, when triggered value is 0

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                  fcwilt @Petr K
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                  @petr-k said in NPN sensor problem:

                  @fcwilt said in NPN sensor problem:

                  M558 P5 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

                  Z probe value 1000, when triggered value is 0

                  Was that with the ! character or without?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • Petr Kundefined
                    Petr K @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt M558 P5 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Petr K
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                      @petr-k said in NPN sensor problem:

                      @fcwilt M558 P5 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000

                      Well then it should work with the ! unless the the output voltage of the sensor simply isn't meeting the logic levels needed of the input.

                      What is the forward voltage drop of that diode?

                      Did you try it without the diode?

                      As I recall the logic 0 voltage level for the input is appx 0.8 volts. It's possible the combination of the drop across the NPN transistor in the sensor and the diode fails to meet that logic 0 level.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Petr Kundefined
                        Petr K @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt I try it without diode too, but it was the same, nothing changed.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @Petr K
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                          @petr-k said in NPN sensor problem:

                          @fcwilt I try it without diode too, but it was the same, nothing changed.

                          Do you have a way to measure the voltage at the input to the board to verify the low (sensor triggered) and high (sensor not triggered) voltage levels

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Petr K
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                            @petr-k said in NPN sensor problem:

                            M584 M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; set drive mapping

                            You have M584 twice on that line.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            • Petr Kundefined
                              Petr K @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt
                              IMG_20210828_094804_New.jpg

                              IMG_20210828_094840_New.jpg

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @Petr K
                                last edited by dc42

                                @petr-k if you have a multimeter then as @fcwilt suggested, you should measure the voltage between the IN pin and GND pins of the Z Probe connector. You should get:

                                • With the sensor not connected: nearly 3.3V (and DWC should report the Z probe reading as 0). If you don't read 3.3V then most likely your M558 command is wrong.
                                • With the sensor connected but not triggered: same (except that if the sensor includes a pullup resistor, you may get a higher voltage than 3.3V)
                                • With the sensor connected and triggered: about 0.2V if you don't use the diode, or 0.5V if you do.

                                Edit: in your photo it looks as though you may be using 2 diodes connected in series.

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                                • Petr Kundefined
                                  Petr K @dc42
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                                  @dc42

                                  sensor connected, not triggered - 3.0V
                                  sensor connected, triggered - 0V
                                  sensor disconnected, not triggered - 0V
                                  sensor disconnected, triggered - 1,5 V

                                  All with diode.

                                  My soldering looks like a second diode šŸ˜„

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                                    Petr K @Petr K
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                                    G31 X35 Y-4 Z0 P500 was the problem, I had two parameters P (P0 and P500), now works great

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                                      Petr K @Petr K
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                                      @petr-k And P≠0

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