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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @EducatingSavvas
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      @EducatingSavvas said in Pause.g and Resume.g with VFD Router Spindle.:

      @dc42

      Hi - I just updated the firmware to RRF2.04 but still no luck.

      I tried adding M5 G60 R1 to the pause.g file and and M3 R1 but this doesn't seem to send the PWM command to the frequency drive. I even tried putting a M42 P2 R1 command in to see if that works, but that didn't either.

      What M453 command are you using in config.g?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • EducatingSavvasundefined
        EducatingSavvas @dc42
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        @dc42

        I changed the M453 command from M453 S0 P2 I0 R24000 F300 T1 to M453 P2 R24000 in the config file but that didn't change anything. The M3 R1 command in the resume.g file still doesn't seem to recall the PWM signal from P2 after being paused. I tried M3 R0 and M3 in pause.g M5 G60 R0 and M5 in resume.g, but again no luck.

        When the job is paused I can see the XYZ coordinates in the console, but I can't see the PWM state.

        I did get it to sort of work by commenting out the M5 command in the pause.g file and using the M42 P2 S0 disable the frequency drive - but I'm not happy with that. If something goes wrong with the third party PWM to analoge convert I'm using between the Duet and frequency drive, the spindle is still receiving the PWM speed during a pause and could turn on.

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        • jlipavsky79undefined
          jlipavsky79 @EducatingSavvas
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          @EducatingSavvas Did yyou ever find a solution to this issue?

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
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            Surely with the conditional code and object model we must be getting close to making this possible through rs485/modbus?

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            • EducatingSavvasundefined
              EducatingSavvas @jlipavsky79
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              @jlipavsky79 Not really. I found some work around where during a pause I sent a M42 P2 S0 to turn off the spindle enable command, but didn't send a M5 to turn off the PWM signal. I'm in the process of updating to RRF3 on a test rig so hopefully I'll test this again and see if there's any differences.

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              • Danalundefined
                Danal
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                When you get to RepRap firmware R3, you can "capture" the PWM from the object model in pause, turn it off in pause, and then re-establish it in resume.

                The clean way to do that is a global variable. These are not shipping, yet, in RRF3. HOWEVER... there are unused 'harmless' spots that can be updated in the object model. So those can be used, right now today, to accomplish the same goal.

                RRF2 to 3 conversion is a fair amount of work and learning... yet... you could deal with VFD freq today in an OK way, and make it even cleaner when variables ship (which is pretty soon, per David).

                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                • EducatingSavvasundefined
                  EducatingSavvas @Danal
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                  @Danal Thanks Danal for the pointers - I've just finished converting my config.g and associated files to work with RRF3 and it's behaving as I had previous left it. I'd like to now learn how to implement some of the new features but it's like you say it's a sharp learning curve. Where do I start?

                  I'm guessing here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode_Meta_Commands#Section_Using_conditional_GCode_commands_in_bed_g_to_calibrate_a_delta_printer

                  Does this mean we'd be able to eventually write scripts which can process g-code in real time? For example to enable a 4th or 5th axis for following vectors angles for a tangential knife cutter?

                  Cheers, Savvas

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                  • Danalundefined
                    Danal @EducatingSavvas
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                    @EducatingSavvas said in Pause.g and Resume.g with VFD Router Spindle.:

                    Does this mean we'd be able to eventually write scripts which can process g-code in real time?

                    Yes.

                    I'd phrase it as "actions that occur interleaved with G-Code statements as they complete", but I think we are saying almost the same thing.

                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      Currently the spindle speed is usually not saved in restore point #1 when you pause the print. I will try to fix that in the next 3.01RC. Meanwhile the following may work, but I have not tested it:

                      • At the start of pause.g use G60 S0 to save the spindle speed in restore point #0. After that you can turn the spindle off.
                      • In restore.g use M3 R0 to restore the spindle speed, then a G4 command to allow the speed to be reached.

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                      • EducatingSavvasundefined
                        EducatingSavvas @dc42
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                        @dc42 Thanks that worked. For reference my pause.g file now looks like:

                        G60 S0 ; Save Spindle Speed
                        G91 ; Relative positioning
                        G1 Z5 F500 ; Slowly move z axis to safe location clearing material
                        G90 ; Absolute positioning
                        M5 ; Turn off Spindle PWM
                        M42 P0 S0 ; Turn off spindle enable
                        M117 Turning off and Raising spindle ;Display message
                        G4 p1000 ; Dwell while spindle slows to stop
                        G53 G1 F1000 Z-1 ; move z axis to safe z

                        and resume.g like:
                        M3 R0 ; Turn on PWM
                        M42 P0 S1 ; Turn on spindle enable
                        G4 P4000 ; Dwell
                        M291 P"STAND CLEAR! Job Resuming." R"Warning" S2 ; Display message and wait prompt

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                        • EducatingSavvasundefined
                          EducatingSavvas @Danal
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                          @Danal said in Pause.g and Resume.g with VFD Router Spindle.:

                          interleaved

                          So much to learn... so little space in my head.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            I've put a fix in the firmware source so that in future the spindle speed will be saved in restore point 1 along with the other parameters when you pause.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • EducatingSavvasundefined
                              EducatingSavvas @EducatingSavvas
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                              @EducatingSavvas In RRF3.01 RC6 you can now remove the line G60 S0 ; Save Spindle Speed from the pause.g file and change M3 R0 to M3 R1; Turn on PWM in the resume.g file.

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