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[3.4b3] Homing coupler does not work correctly

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    Diamondback @dc42
    last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 13:36

    @dc42 Didn't change anything, with R0 it still homes incorrectly.

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      dc42 administrators @Diamondback
      last edited by dc42 22 Oct 2021, 14:26

      @diamondback please try the binary at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. Caution if you are using stall homing: the stall sensitivity on Duet 3 MB6HC changed in release 3.4.0beta5 but has been reverted in this release.

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        Diamondback @dc42
        last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 14:48

        @dc42 I'm afraid I'll need a Duet 2 (Wifi) binary. πŸ‘

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          dc42 administrators @Diamondback
          last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 15:41

          @diamondback I've put one at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0.

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            Diamondback @dc42
            last edited by 22 Oct 2021, 15:49

            @dc42 I'm carefully optimistic, I couldn't get it to do weird things yet, before it basically failed every single time. Will continue testing...

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              Diamondback @dc42
              last edited by 23 Oct 2021, 05:22

              @dc42 Still no issues with the new binary, seems like you might have found the culprit πŸ™‚

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                dc42 administrators @Diamondback
                last edited by 23 Oct 2021, 07:21

                @diamondback thanks, I'll mark this thread as solved.

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                  Diamondback @dc42
                  last edited by 9 Feb 2022, 12:53

                  @dc42 I've been running the firmware build you posted here ever since you did, and no more issues with the coupler! Definitely seems solved! πŸ™‚

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                    Diamondback
                    last edited by 30 Dec 2022, 20:02

                    @dc42 I have good news and bad news πŸ˜„ I just upgraded my entire TC from Duet 2 to Duet 3 hardware and also to 3.5b1.
                    The good news is that this issue did not happen anymore at all with the duet 2 hardware (on 3.4.5), however, now with Duet 3 on 3.5b1, it happens again πŸ™ˆ I haven't tested Duet 3 on 3.4.5, so not sure if it's Duet 3 specific or 3.5b1...

                    Any ideas what could have caused this regression?

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                      dc42 administrators @Diamondback
                      last edited by 30 Dec 2022, 22:10

                      @Diamondback please check whether the symptom is exactly the same as you describes at the start of this thread, and start a new thread with any appropriate amendments. Post the config.g and relevant homing files for your new configuration.

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                        Diamondback @dc42
                        last edited by 31 Dec 2022, 11:44

                        @dc42 Hm, this is very odd timing.... It turns out, the grub screw of my coupler was loose and that's what made it look like it wasn't homing correctly... Weird that this happens right after a firmware upgrade πŸ˜„

                        Not 100% sure this was the only issue, but I will assume so for now, sorry for the confusion. πŸ™‚

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                          dc42 administrators @Diamondback
                          last edited by 31 Dec 2022, 12:25

                          @Diamondback thanks for the update! Over the years I have seen many instances of faults being blamed on a software update, when in reality something else just happened to go wrong at the same time.

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                            Diamondback @dc42
                            last edited by 31 Dec 2022, 14:26

                            @dc42 Yea same... I hate bad timing...πŸ™ƒ

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                              Diamondback @dc42
                              last edited by Diamondback 1 Feb 2023, 13:38 2 Jan 2023, 13:38

                              @dc42 As it turns out, this was not "just" a loose coupler and bad timing. I kept getting this issue even after fixing the coupler shaft grub screw.

                              It appears that the switch from Duet 2 Wifi to Duet 3 6HC for the coupler stepper had an impact on its torque. With the same settings in config.g it now stalled from time to time during homing before it reached its hard endstop (where it's supposed to stall).

                              I think I fixed it by increasing the current a little, at least I haven't seen the issue again afterwards.

                              Is a change of output torque expected when changing the stepper driver even if it's using the same settings?

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                                dc42 administrators @Diamondback
                                last edited by 2 Jan 2023, 19:33

                                @Diamondback said in [3.4b3] Homing coupler does not work correctly:

                                Is a change of output torque expected when changing the stepper driver even if it's using the same settings?

                                That's entirely possible, because the current can't be set to exactly the value you requested, as only certain values are available. RRF gives you the closest available lower current unless the next higher available current is only slightly higher. The TMC2160 or 5160 drivers provide finer current control than the TMC2209 at low currents.

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                                  Diamondback @dc42
                                  last edited by 2 Jan 2023, 19:36

                                  @dc42 Ah ok, that makes sense then, thank you πŸ‘

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