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    dc42 administrators
    last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 08:14

    If you home just X or just Y, does that work reliably?

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      Haggan90 @dc42
      last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 08:55

      @dc42 Sometimes. But let's say I manage to home Y, if I then move Y and then tried to home it again it will most likley not work as planned.

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        dc42 administrators @Haggan90
        last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 08:58

        @haggan90 said in Haq XY:

        @dc42 Sometimes. But let's say I manage to home Y, if I then move Y and then tried to home it again it will most likley not work as planned.

        Do you mean that it sometimes ignores the triggering of the Y endstop switch? Are you certain that you have the X and Y endstop switches connected to the right connectors?

        Please post your homey.g file.

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          Haggan90 @dc42
          last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 10:04

          @dc42 Yes, but I dont have the endstops for Z and U connected yet so I can't do the homeall.g.

          This is the homey.g

          G91 ; relative positioning
          G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
          G1 S1 Y555 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
          G1 Y-10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
          G1 S1 Y555 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
          G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
          G90 ; absolute positioning

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            Haggan90
            last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 12:45

            So i've added the endstop to my U axis, and added a homeu.g folder (not sure if I supose to?)
            But I can't home U... I have U motor and endstop connected to the duex2.

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by dc42 1 Nov 2019, 18:59 11 Jan 2019, 18:59

              Yes you do need a homeu.g file. The U endstop switch must be connected to the E0 endstop input.

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                Haggan90 @dc42
                last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 19:39

                @dc42 Ok!
                But when I try to home U nothing happends, only Z goes down 5mm and nothing more.

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 21:19

                  Have you tested the au endstop? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_endstop_switches#Section_Test_endstop_switches

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                    Haggan90 @Haggan90
                    last edited by 11 Jan 2019, 21:45

                    @haggan90 Got this fixed now, now homing of U works 😃
                    But everything is still very buggy.. is there something wrong with my homey.g ?

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by dc42 1 Dec 2019, 08:58 12 Jan 2019, 08:57

                      "everything is still very buggy" doesn't give me much to go on. Please provide more detail of the fault(s). A video may help. Remember, I don't have a machine with those kinematics to test this on, the best I can do is to configure a Cartesian machine in the same way as yours and try to work out whether the motor movements are correct.

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                        Haggan90 @dc42
                        last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 10:26

                        @dc42 yeah I know, I'm sorry.
                        I very much appriciate all the help you have given me 🙂
                        I will try and do some troubleshooting myself first and if I don't manage to fix it I will post a video!

                        All in all the movements seems to work great!

                        One thing, do I need to home every axis the same way? In my case now, the Y homes in +555 and X/U homes in -555? Should I maybe move the endstop for Y to the other side?

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                          dc42 administrators @Haggan90
                          last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 08:28

                          @haggan90 said in Haq XY:

                          One thing, do I need to home every axis the same way? In my case now, the Y homes in +555 and X/U homes in -555? Should I maybe move the endstop for Y to the other side?

                          No, you should be able to use those endstop locations just as they are.

                          I think there may be a problem with the current firmware if you try to home several axes concurrently. What should happen is that if you home two or more of X, Y and U concurrently, the homing move should stop when the first endstop switch is hit. Then you need to finish by homing the axes individually. But I suspect that if you home X and Y together, if the X switch is triggered first then the homing move will not stop.

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                            Haggan90 @dc42
                            last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 09:48

                            @dc42 Usually the homing of U and X works good, but when i home Y it just stops when it hits the endstop and then I need to restart the board. I havent tried to home any axes at the same time, only individually.

                            Simetimes when I try to home X the U axis also moves and plunges in to the endstop...

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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 10:48

                              Please share your config.g and homing files, then I'll try to replicate those issues.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                Haggan90 @dc42
                                last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 15:50

                                @dc42
                                Config.g

                                ; Drives

                                M669 K0 Y-1:1:0:-1 ; set Y to react with X1 and U6

                                M584 Z2:5 U6 ; set 3 Z drivers and add one U driver
                                M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards
                                M569 P5 S0 ; Drive 5 goes backwards
                                M569 P6 S0 ; Drive 6 goes backwards

                                M350 U16 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                M92 U80.00 X80.00 Y240.00 Z1066.67 E420.00:420.00 ; Set steps per mm
                                M566 U900.00 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                M203 U10000.00 X10000.00 Y10000.00 Z500.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M201 U800.00 X800.00 Y800.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                M906 U1000.00 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E800.00:800.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                ; Axis Limits
                                M208 U0 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                M208 U500 X500 Y500 Z750 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                ; Endstops
                                M574 U0 S0 ; set active low endstops
                                M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                                ; Z-Probe
                                M574 X1 Y2 S1 ; X home to min. Y home to max. NC microswitches.
                                M574 Z1 S2 ; Define Z to use Probe. Home to Min.
                                M558 P9 H5 F500 T4000 X0 Y0 Z1 ; Set Z probe type/mode 9. Not using on XY, but using it on Z.
                                G31 P25 X0 Y-57.3 Z0.0 ; Z probe trigger value, offset in relation to nozzle. And trigger height adjustment

                                ; Heaters
                                M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                ; BLTouch - Heaters
                                M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 2nd Heater to free up PWM channel 1 on the Duex board.

                                ; Fans
                                M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                ; Tools
                                M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                homey.g
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 S1 Y-550 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 Y-10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                G1 S1 Y-550 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                                G90 ; absolute positioning

                                homex.g
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 S1 X-550 F2500 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 X10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                G1 S1 X-550 F660 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                                G90 ; absolute positioning

                                homeu.g
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 S1 U-550 F2500 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 U10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                G1 S1 U-550 F660 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                                G90 ; absolute positioning

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                                  Haggan90 @dc42
                                  last edited by 16 Jan 2019, 19:32

                                  @dc42 I've manage to get the homeall.g to work now byt homing Y first, then X and then U (all independently).

                                  But I have encountered another problem.
                                  When I try to run G29 both the X and U tries to move, when I only want X and Y to move.
                                  U just crashes into the endstop.

                                  config.g looks like this

                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 U0 S0 ; set active low endstops
                                  M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M574 Z1 S2 ; Define Z to use Probe. Home to Min.
                                  M558 P9 H5 F500 T6000 ; Set Z probe type/mode 9.
                                  G31 P25 X0 Y-57.3 Z0.0 ; Z probe trigger value, offset in relation to nozzle. And trigger height adjustment
                                  M557 X50:480 Y60:480 S50 ; define mesh grid

                                  ; BLTouch - Heaters
                                  M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 2nd Heater to free up PWM channel 1 on the Duex board

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                                    dc42 administrators @Haggan90
                                    last edited by dc42 17 Jan 2019, 17:14

                                    @haggan90 said in Haq XY:

                                    @dc42 I've manage to get the homeall.g to work now byt homing Y first, then X and then U (all independently).

                                    Can you tell me which sequence didn't work? I still want to sort it out. You should be able to home the axes in any order, even simultaneously to begin with.

                                    But I have encountered another problem.
                                    When I try to run G29 both the X and U tries to move, when I only want X and Y to move.
                                    U just crashes into the endstop.

                                    Do normal X, Y and XY moves work correctly? In particular, Y and XY moves should turn the U motor so that the U axis doesn't move. The only time that commands shouldn't move just the axes you mention is when you send G1 S2 moves, because they are individual motor moves.

                                    Also, if you send a G30 probing move such as G30 P0 X100 Y100, does it just move X and Y to 100, or does U move too?

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                                      Haggan90 @dc42
                                      last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 18:28

                                      @dc42 said in Haq XY:

                                      For some reason I can't home all again... now when Y tries to home first both X and U moves towards their endstop (at a much lower speed then Y). This is my homeall.g

                                      G91 ; relative positioning
                                      G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                      G1 S1 Y-550 F2500 ; move quickly to Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                      G1 Y5 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                      G1 S1 Y-455 F660 ; move slowly to Y axis endstops once more (second pass)

                                      G1 S1 X-550 F2500 ; move quickly to U axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                      G1 X10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                      G1 S1 X-550 F660 ; move slowly to U axis endstop once more (second pass)

                                      G1 S1 U-550 F2500 ; move quickly to U axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                      G1 U10 F1000 ; go back a few mm
                                      G1 S1 U-550 F660 ; move slowly to U axis endstop once more (second pass)

                                      G90 ; absolute positioning
                                      G1 X35 Y65 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                                      G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                      G91 ; relative positioning
                                      G1 S2 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                      G90 ; absolute positioning

                                      If I just toggle Y/X/U every axis works perfect, when I move Y for example both U and X are perfectly still in x/u axis.
                                      And when I move only X/U the Y axis is perfectly still.

                                      Nothing hapends at all if I send G30 P0 X100 Y100, but If I only send G30 (after all axis has been homed) everything just seems to screw up.. I will film it and post a video link soon!

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                                        Haggan90
                                        last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 18:36

                                        @dc42

                                        Sometimes It seems to work with the home all, if I just do it as soon as I start the printer. But if I have moved any axis before, this happends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShrS0JAh68

                                        And this is what happends if I first manually home all axis and the use G29 (mesh grid): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcpx7KPqJXw

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                                          Haggan90
                                          last edited by 17 Jan 2019, 18:37

                                          Config.g

                                          ; Drives

                                          M669 K0 Y-1:1:0:-1 ; set Y to react with X1 and U6

                                          M584 Z2:5 U6 ; set 3 Z drivers and add one U driver
                                          M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                          M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                          M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                          M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                          M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards
                                          M569 P5 S0 ; Drive 5 goes backwards
                                          M569 P6 S0 ; Drive 6 goes backwards

                                          M350 U16 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                          M92 U80.00 X80.00 Y240.00 Z1066.67 E420.00:420.00 ; Set steps per mm
                                          M566 U900.00 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                          M203 U10000.00 X10000.00 Y10000.00 Z500.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 U800.00 X800.00 Y800.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          M906 U1000.00 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E800.00:800.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                          ; Axis Limits
                                          M208 U0 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                          M208 U550 X550 Y500 Z750 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                          ; Endstops
                                          M574 U0 S0 ; set active low endstops
                                          M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                                          ; Z-Probe
                                          M574 Z1 S2 ; Define Z to use Probe. Home to Min.
                                          M558 P9 H5 F500 T6000 ; Set Z probe type/mode 9.
                                          G31 P25 X0 Y-57.3 Z0.0 ; Z probe trigger value, offset in relation to nozzle. And trigger height adjustment
                                          M557 X30:530 Y65:490 S50 ; define mesh grid

                                          ; BLTouch - Heaters
                                          M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 2nd Heater to free up PWM channel 1 on the Duex board

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