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    • Testproundefined
      Testpro @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux i will have to figure out how to do that. they can be exported to excel right?

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      • Testproundefined
        Testpro @Testpro
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        @testpro in the mean time can you tell me how to check the sensor used on the z axis is good or not, the z axis will not home but it will run up to extruder and beyond it you allow it., so i do not if it bad or i have a bad setting.

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        • Testproundefined
          Testpro @Testpro
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          @testpro config g file
          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue May 25 2021 18:51:26 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

          ; General preferences
          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"big 3d box 1" ; set printer name
          M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

          ; Network
          M552 S1 ; enable network
          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

          ; Drives
          M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
          M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
          M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
          M208 X230 Y210 Z200 S0 ; set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
          M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
          M574 Z2 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for high end on Z

          ; Z-Probe
          M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
          M558 H30 ;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
          G31 P500 X5 Y5 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Custom settings are not defined

          ; Miscellaneous
          M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
          M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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          • Testproundefined
            Testpro @Testpro
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            @testpro
            ; homeall.g
            ; called to home all axes
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue May 25 2021 18:51:26 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
            G91 ; relative positioning
            G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
            G1 H1 X-235 Y-215 F1800 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
            G1 H1 X-235 ; home X axis
            G1 H1 Y-215 ; home Y axis
            G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
            G1 H1 X-235 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
            G1 H1 Y-215 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
            G90 ; absolute positioning
            G1 X10 Y10 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

            ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
            ;G91 ; relative positioning
            ;G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
            ;G90 ; absolute positioning

            ; homex.g
            ; called to home the X axis
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue May 25 2021 18:51:26 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
            G91 ; relative positioning
            G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
            G1 H1 X-235 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
            G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
            G1 H1 X-235 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
            G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
            G90 ; absolute positioning

            ; homey.g
            ; called to home the Y axis
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue May 25 2021 18:51:26 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
            G91 ; relative positioning
            G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
            G1 H1 Y-215 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
            G1 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
            G1 H1 Y-215 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
            G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
            G90 ; absolute positioning

            ; homez.g
            ; called to home the Z axis
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Tue May 25 2021 18:51:26 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
            G91 ; relative positioning
            G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
            G90 ; absolute positioning
            G1 X10 Y10 F6000 ; go to first probe point
            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

            ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
            ;G91 ; relative positioning
            ;G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
            ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @Testpro
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              @testpro said in E 3d BIGBOX Duel head:

              @testpro in the mean time can you tell me how to check the sensor used on the z axis is good or not, the z axis will not home but it will run up to extruder and beyond it you allow it., so i do not if it bad or i have a bad setting.

              Not exactly sure what you mean. What kind of probe is it? How is it wired?

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • Testproundefined
                Testpro @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux
                the Z sensor is what came with the printer but i have found the problem and now it works.

                i have been working on things and here is where i am at now with the printer.

                X axis will home by moving to the left (from front of machine) after double bump on end stop

                Y axis will home by moving to front of printer but this makes the X axis bounce in its end stop until Y reaches its end stop. this can not be right? can it?

                Z axis will home after i flipped the wires so it runs in the up direction and not down.

                the bed reads the correct temperature and it does heat but the program stops it from heating saying it is not heating up fast enough. there is a setting for this i assume?

                So need to figure out Y axis home issue and heater faulting out because of not heating fast enough.

                thank you for your response above it helped me figure out the sensor issue.

                any suggettions on these issues?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Testpro
                  last edited by

                  @testpro said in E 3d BIGBOX Duel head:

                  Y axis will home by moving to front of printer but this makes the X axis bounce in its end stop until Y reaches its end stop. this can not be right? can it?

                  Not sure what you mean by this. Can you show a video?

                  @testpro said in E 3d BIGBOX Duel head:

                  the bed reads the correct temperature and it does heat but the program stops it from heating saying it is not heating up fast enough. there is a setting for this i assume?

                  You'll need to PID tune the heater.
                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  • Testproundefined
                    Testpro @Phaedrux
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                    @phaedrux Getting a video file small enough to upload is a problem at this point.

                    basically i home x and the carriage goes to the left in the X direction but the Y direction is going to the back of the machine.

                    Now X is homed and then tell y to home and y moves to the front of the machine and the carriage is bouncing off the X end stop and makes the whole shake until Y hits its end stop on front of machine.

                    i will try video again
                    .

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                    • Testproundefined
                      Testpro @Testpro
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                      @testpro [0_1622156296017_MAH00089.avi](Uploading 100%)

                      vidoe shows the shacking or skipping going on while homing to Y.

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                      • Testproundefined
                        Testpro @Testpro
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                        @testpro MAH00089.mp4 ok this should work to show the issue while performing Y homing

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          It would seem that a belt is slipping perhaps.

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                          • Testproundefined
                            Testpro @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux
                            ok the belt is slipping but because it is forced to.

                            When I home X, the extruder moves to the left but Y moves to back of machine and once X hits endstop it stops but when i then hit Y to home, Y move to front of machine and X is trying to go left but it can not because it is at the end stop and then the popping noise.

                            So X move right of the machine Y moves to front of machine, This also causes a popping nose but this time Y is at its end stop and can not go any further to front of machin.

                            So X moves left of the machine Y moves to back of the machine.

                            so thing is wrong with the way Y is moving in response to X when it moves. which is causing all the popping noise. ???

                            what do you think

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Is this machine actually a corexy?

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                              • Testproundefined
                                Testpro @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux i have no idea what CoreXY means.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  Can you post some photos of the belt path?

                                  I'm not super familiar with the big box and it's variations.

                                  does the belt path look like this?

                                  simple_belts_corexy_annotated.jpg

                                  Somewhat anyway.

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • Testproundefined
                                    Testpro @Testpro
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                                    @testpro ok this printer is a big box e3d printer with 2 heads. only one head is hooked up for now.

                                    this line of code is saying i have the program set for a CoreXY system (M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode)

                                    is there another option for the code that will take care of this problem i am having?

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      Yes the config is set to corexy, but if the machine isn't actually corexy you'll have some issues.

                                      Corexy is a kinematic arrangement where the motion of 2 motors work together to move the print head. A cartesian printer by contrast only uses a single motor per axis.

                                      If you can get a photo or video of the belt arrangement on XY for me I can tell pretty quickly.

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • Testproundefined
                                        Testpro @Phaedrux
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                                        @phaedrux Ok so after looking at machine again the Y axis has one belt at each side of the printer (right and left) and the X axis has one belt moving extruder carriage left and right.

                                        so the X stepper motor moves on the y axis on the right hand side of machine when y moves the belt.
                                        i have some photos as well.

                                        IMG_7943-2.jpg IMG_7942-2.jpg IMG_7941-2.jpg IMG_7940-2.jpg

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Ok, so not CoreXY at all. Just standard cartesian.

                                          Delete this line M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode and try again with homing.

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                                          • Testproundefined
                                            Testpro @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux
                                            ok i have deleted (M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode) the whole line and reset the machine and it is still going
                                            the same thing as it was before no change on homing.

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