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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      I really don't think the axes are inverted. I suspect that your Z probe had a trigger height that varies with XY position. If you are using the IR sensor, or another type of probe that is separate from the nozzle, then on a delta this is usually caused by geometrical errors in your delta printer build causing the effector to tilt as it moves in the XY plane. The tilt changes the relative heights of the sensor and the nozzle.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • burtoogleundefined
        burtoogle
        last edited by

        Understood.

        The sensor is offset from the nozzle by about 10mm in the NW direction. I find it hard to believe that the effector tilts sufficiently to create the amount of error I am seeing in just 10mm. I have measured the tilt before and did adjust the spacing of the arms to reduce the tilt. It doesn't tilt much now.

        Is it possible to shift the map to compensate the for the offset of the height sensor from the nozzle?

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        • lolorcundefined
          lolorc
          last edited by

          Hi,

          I have a macro in which there is :

          [[language]]
          M120
          G91
          G1 Z-0.01 F6000
          M121
          
          

          It gives an error when trying to execute it. M98 P0:/macros/test Push(): stack overflow!

          also If I create this macro with DWC and call it "Z-0.01" it appears as "Z-0.01" in the macro list, but it appears as "Z-0" on the machine control tab

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          • hairy_kiwiundefined
            hairy_kiwi
            last edited by

            Hi David,

            Thank you and Chrishamm for all your great work!

            In the last weeks I've been getting Wiener90 (a Mendel90 derivative) up and running with DWF while playing catch up with the latest firmware releases since I bought my DWF and IR z-probe a few months back.

            I'll probably not be able to feedback too much on 1.17RC3 before you release, but FWIW a couple of points:

            1. Some of the release notes appear contradictory regarding G29:

            line numbers copied from https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW

            [[language]]
            37 - Implemented G29 S1 (load bed height map from file)
            ...
            45 - G29 grid bed compensation is fully implemented except for G29 S1 (load height map from file)
            ...
            50 - G29 can now be used to do bed probing, however the results are not used yet
            
            

            2. General feedback: In DWC 1.13, Extruder Control > Feedrate (mm/s)
            While calibrating my 2.85mm dia extruder running an E3Dv6 hotend I subsequently discovered a) I only had a 30W heater cartridge installed(!), and b) this necessitated a feed rate less than the minimum value available (5mm/s). The only way of achieving that was to temporarily reduce the max E feedrate via the gcode console/config.g. Perhaps after I upgrade to a 40W heater cartridge a 5mm/s E feedrate will be achievable. Nevertheless, that's still a significantly faster filament feedrate for 2.85mm dia material than would normally be used at a print speed of say 50mm/s using a 0.4mm dia nozzle.

            I look forward to being of more help in the new year - including writing a post about using DuetWifi with Wiener90 as soon as I get the early-day gremlins sorted.

            Cheers, and Merry Christmas to everyone on the Duet3D dev team. 🙂

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            • lolorcundefined
              lolorc
              last edited by

              I like the visual representation after G29.
              is it be possible to display it from the existing heightmap.csv (without running G29 again) ?

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              • lolorcundefined
                lolorc
                last edited by

                @lolorc:

                M98 P0:/macros/test Push(): stack overflow!

                Hmm it looks like it's not related to the macro.
                I just tried to issue a G28, the printer does home.
                and just after that i issued a G32, here's the result:

                [[language]]
                G32
                Push(): stack overflow!
                Attempt to move the head of a delta printer before homing the towers
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home a delta printer before bed probing
                Error: Must home printer before G29 bed probing
                Attempt to move the head of a delta printer before homing the towers
                
                
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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  Stack overflow usually means that the macro you are running is directly or indirectly recursive. For example, if your bed.g file contains a G28 command, and your homedelta.g file contains a G32 command.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • lolorcundefined
                    lolorc
                    last edited by

                    hmm what's wrong with my test macro ? it was working before with 1.16.
                    Also, the multiple stack overflow errors happened without any changes.
                    i powered the printer, did upload both firmware and DWC. did a G29, did an emergency stop, did a G29 again.
                    G32 used to work before.

                    and now G32 now says : Macro file homedelta.g not found.

                    I have not cold reset my board, but I'm pretty sure if I do it will work again…
                    (I'm not cold reseting because I had an issue with rc1. using DWC the printer stopped responding after a successful print, I did cold reset and it worked again, I guess I should have tried to connect to usb and try to debug the issue)

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                    • mhackneyundefined
                      mhackney
                      last edited by

                      @lolorc - yes you can do that:

                      Settings->Machine Properties "Download Heightmap"

                      actually shows the map in the visualizer. Seems like a poor choice of label for this button! Should be Show Heightmap or something similar I think. You can download the heightmap, look at the raw data and even tweak it using Settings->System Editor. I accidentally probed a bed clip so I just edited that one value, very convenient.

                      My 3D Printing blog: http://www.sublimelayers.com
                      Coming this summer: "3D Printing Strategies - the art of perfecting your designs and prints"

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                      • mhackneyundefined
                        mhackney
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 - is Chrishamm's code available anywhere? He hasn't updated his repository with the 1.14-b4 stuff yet. I'd like to create a free-standing heightmap visualizer using his code to make it easy to compare and look at archived heightmaps.

                        My 3D Printing blog: http://www.sublimelayers.com
                        Coming this summer: "3D Printing Strategies - the art of perfecting your designs and prints"

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                        • lolorcundefined
                          lolorc
                          last edited by

                          @mhackney:

                          @lolorc - yes you can do that:

                          Settings->Machine Properties "Download Heightmap"

                          actually shows the map in the visualizer. Seems like a poor choice of label for this button! Should be Show Heightmap or something similar I think. You can download the heightmap, look at the raw data and even tweak it using Settings->System Editor. I accidentally probed a bed clip so I just edited that one value, very convenient.

                          Oh, i see, thanks 🙂

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                          • burtoogleundefined
                            burtoogle
                            last edited by

                            So I put some tape on the bed to the S of the centre line and did a scan, here's a picture of the result, I have rotated the picture but you can see the axis arrows and confirm that the huge block is to the S of the centre. It does not extend as far as the E of the bed. BTW - that gives a good indication of how much error the bed has.

                            Here's a photo of the print of my test rectangle looking in a N direction. Note that the bad print is all on the E side of the rectangle (which did not have any tape to raise the bed height). The S side of the rectangle falls into the region that had been taped and I would have expected that to be badly printed but it's actually fine.

                            If I didn't know better, I would say that the heightmap has been rotated through 90 deg counter clockwise!

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                            • mhackneyundefined
                              mhackney
                              last edited by

                              Does the ratty right side of your print correspond to the big red peaks in the plot?

                              My 3D Printing blog: http://www.sublimelayers.com
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                              • lolorcundefined
                                lolorc
                                last edited by

                                @lolorc:

                                hmm what's wrong with my test macro ? it was working before with 1.16.
                                Also, the multiple stack overflow errors happened without any changes.
                                i powered the printer, did upload both firmware and DWC. did a G29, did an emergency stop, did a G29 again.
                                G32 used to work before.

                                and now G32 now says : Macro file homedelta.g not found.

                                I have not cold reset my board, but I'm pretty sure if I do it will work again…
                                (I'm not cold reseting because I had an issue with rc1. using DWC the printer stopped responding after a successful print, I did cold reset and it worked again, I guess I should have tried to connect to usb and try to debug the issue)

                                cold reset did not fix the stack overflow issue with the simple macro.
                                I had to revert back to 1.16 (2016-11-08)
                                all 1.17 version (dev8, rc1 and rc3) have the issue.

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                                • deckingmanundefined
                                  deckingman
                                  last edited by

                                  Yesterday I updated both the firmware to 1.17RC3 from whatever version it was on 9th November (sorry, can't remember the version number) and the web interface to 1.14 from 1.13 and since then I'm getting some odd behaviour that I've not seen before. It could be something else (although I haven't changed anything else on my PC) and just coincidental but sometimes the web interface is very slow to respond. It will take up to 90 seconds to load the page and sometimes fails to connect at the first attempt. When it does start like that, everything is very slow to respond. There is about a 1 second delay between pressing any button on the machine control panel and printer actually making the move. If I disconnect and cycle the power to the printer, then reconnect most times it all works as expected. I'll keep monitoring and if it persists, I'll roll back either the firmware or the DC to see if I can isolate it.

                                  Ian
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                                  • DjDemonDundefined
                                    DjDemonD
                                    last edited by

                                    Quick report - just loaded rc3 from rc1. The only issue I had is that it did not select a tool to heat the hot end when previously it would do so without a problem. I was using:
                                    G10 S[first_layer_temperature]
                                    T0
                                    M116

                                    Now I am using

                                    M109 S[first_layer_temperature] T0

                                    and its working normally.

                                    Love the heightmap graphical output, though if I switch to top view, I can't seem to go back to side view.

                                    Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                    www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                    PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                    • mjhall29undefined
                                      mjhall29
                                      last edited by

                                      Just updated after changing my hotend to a PT100.
                                      First thing the PT100 reports 2000C, maybe it is no good as it is the first time i have tried it?
                                      But worst i do not get mt system DIR listed it just says loading, so i have to edit it on a PC?
                                      Usually this sort of thing means I have done something wrong Any ideas???

                                      Thanks Martin

                                      Regards Martin

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        @DjDemonD:

                                        Quick report - just loaded rc3 from rc1. The only issue I had is that it did not select a tool to heat the hot end when previously it would do so without a problem. I was using:
                                        G10 S[first_layer_temperature]
                                        T0
                                        M116

                                        You need a P0 parameter in the G10 command to tell it what tool you are setting the temperature for.

                                        @DjDemonD:

                                        Love the heightmap graphical output, though if I switch to top view, I can't seem to go back to side view.

                                        You can drag the height map around to change the perspective. The Top View button is just a quick way of setting a particular perspective.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • burtoogleundefined
                                          burtoogle
                                          last edited by

                                          @mhackney:

                                          Does the ratty right side of your print correspond to the big red peaks in the plot?

                                          The really big red area in the plot is located to the S of the middle of the bed. That's where I put the tape before I did the G29 scan. I then removed that tape and printed a single layer of the test rectangle. If the height map was working as I expected, I would have thought that the lower portion of the print would be ratty as the height map would have shown that region of the bed was high and so the nozzle would be raised by the tape thickness.

                                          But what happened is that the ratty region is centered on the E side of the rectangle rather than the S side and that makes me think that the height map has been rotated or transformed in some way.

                                          I should say that with the height map disabled, the rectangle prints out fairly well, much better than the above photo.

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                                          • burtoogleundefined
                                            burtoogle
                                            last edited by

                                            A suggestion for the heightmap display: how about showing the -ve peaks in a different colour, i.e. blue so then when you view the graphic from above that it would be obvious what is high and what is low.

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