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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Yes -89dbm is a very weak signal. One option is to install a WiFi repeater closer to the Duet than your router is. Depending on what router you have already, another option may be to get a better router, especially if your existing one doesn't have MIMO capability.

      We recognise that for a minority of users, wired Ethernet is preferable to WiFi. I have spent much of today working on the firmware for the forthcoming Duet Ethernet.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • lolorcundefined
        lolorc
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        would it be possible to upgrade from wifi to ethernet ? like just replacing the esp module by an ethernet module ?

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          The prototype I am working with is a converted Duet WiFi. So If our plans work out as we hope, it should be possibe to convert a blue production Duet WiFi board to Ethernet. You would need a hot air desoldering too to remove the WiFi module.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
            last edited by

            That's great news!
            Would a access point mode work for the DuetWiFi if more people needed it?

            I already tried some kind of repeater configuration by using an old router, which worked very well with other wifi devices. With the Duet WiFi I get the same behaviour I described above (only pinging works).

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              Yes we're planning to support running the Duet WiFi in access point mode.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
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                I took my plain DuetWifi board, a usb cable and a laptop to a brand new access point.
                The signal strength is around -40dBm.
                Same problem again.

                Did you see my VCC reading? It's 3.04V. Could that be a problem? I saw other boards have around 3.3V.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  If the Vcc really is only 3.03V then that could be a problem. However, that reading is taken by the ESP module itself, so it is only as accurate as the voltage reference in the module- which probably has a tolerance of 10% or so.

                  If the wifi server code keeps resetting with an exception, that suggests a bug in the server code, or possibly a hardware problem. But it's hard to diagnose a crash when we can't reproduce it, especially when we are dependent on 3rd-party code and not all the source is available.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • lolorcundefined
                    lolorc
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                    Flash size 4194304, free RAM 32808 bytes, WiFi Vcc 3.21V, host name: duetwifi, reset reason: Exception

                    I can easily reproduce this by connecting to the web interface from both my computer (chromium) and my phone(firefox) and trying to move head from the machine control tab.

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User
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                      You are right with the 10% tolerance.
                      My DMM showed 3.29V between +3.3V and GND on the ESP8266 module.

                      I tried different server versions:
                      DuetWiFiServer version 1.02 shows VCC 3.30V
                      DuetWiFiServer version 1.03 (ch fork) shows VCC 3.04V

                      The micro sd card shouldn't influence the web server. I also tried without micro sd card. No change.

                      @dc42: What third-party code do you mean? I only found this for the server: https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/src/DuetNG/DuetWiFi/Webserver.cpp

                      @lolorc: What's your signal strength? Does it work for you with only one device connected?

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                      • lolorcundefined
                        lolorc
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                        @lolorc: What's your signal strength? Does it work for you with only one device connected?

                        signal strength=-54dBm
                        It works for me with only one device.
                        I guess the crashes come from too much errors and retransmissions.
                        It would help to get real error messages instead of "exception", I'm looking at the source at the moment, I'm wondering how I could add debug statements in DWS (https://github.com/chrishamm/DuetWiFiServer) I'm not sure i can simply add Serial.println("DEBUG: BLAH"); I guess I need to have them parsed in RRF so they get displayed on the console.

                        about having duetwifi working as a AP, it can be easily implemented in here : https://github.com/chrishamm/DuetWiFiServer/blob/master/src/RepRapWiFi.cpp

                        Have you tried to use another AP ? an android phone used as a portable hotspot for instance. (as I mention in
                        https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=455 I had weird issues with a cisco aironet 1130 AP, was working perfectly with my android phone before, now I'm testing a 1140 AP)

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                        • lolorcundefined
                          lolorc
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                          @lolorc:

                          [
                          It would help to get real error messages instead of "exception", I'm looking at the source at the moment, I'm wondering how I could add debug statements in DWS (https://github.com/chrishamm/DuetWiFiServer) I'm not sure i can simply add Serial.println("DEBUG: BLAH"); I guess I need to have them parsed in RRF so they get displayed on the console.

                          hmmm looks like I might just have to populate ESP_COMMS to receive the Serial.println from DWS 🙂

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            @lolorc:

                            @lolorc: What's your signal strength? Does it work for you with only one device connected?

                            It would help to get real error messages instead of "exception", I'm looking at the source at the moment, I'm wondering how I could add debug statements in DWS (https://github.com/chrishamm/DuetWiFiServer) I'm not sure i can simply add Serial.println("DEBUG: BLAH"); I guess I need to have them parsed in RRF so they get displayed on the console.

                            I agree, we need at least the program address that caused the exception to be able to debug this. Unfortunately, the core library for the ESP8266 is closed source. Even if the manufacturer wanted to open-source it, the FCC won't allow that.

                            I do have a major rework of the DuetWiFiServer code planned. I think it will be next after implementing babystepping in firmware 1.18 and finishing support for the Duet Ethernet (which is mostly working already).

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • lolorcundefined
                              lolorc
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                              Can you confirm if I connect to URXD1/UTXD1 (ESP_COMMS) I will get the access to the ESP serial and be able to get messages from the Serial.println in DWS to debug it ?

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
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                                @lolorc:

                                Can you confirm if I connect to URXD1/UTXD1 (ESP_COMMS) I will get the access to the ESP serial and be able to get messages from the Serial.println in DWS to debug it ?

                                Yes, that should work if you match the baud rates.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • lolorcundefined
                                  lolorc
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                                  @dc42:

                                  @lolorc:

                                  Can you confirm if I connect to URXD1/UTXD1 (ESP_COMMS) I will get the access to the ESP serial and be able to get messages from the Serial.println in DWS to debug it ?

                                  Yes, that should work if you match the baud rates.

                                  it does, thanks. (115200 as stated in DWS)

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                                  • lolorcundefined
                                    lolorc
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                                    [[language]]
                                    Exception (28):
                                    epc1=0x4000bf0e epc2=0x00000000 epc3=0x00000000 excvaddr=0x00000000 depc=0x00000000
                                    
                                    ctx: cont 
                                    sp: 3fff0510 end: 3fff07f0 offset: 01a0
                                    
                                    >>>stack>>>
                                    3fff06b0:  3ffe0031 3fff0790 3fff0790 4020bd1f  
                                    3fff06c0:  3fff1284 3fff0790 3fff0740 4020c00a  
                                    3fff06d0:  3fff1284 3fff0790 3fff09b4 4020842b  
                                    3fff06e0:  00000000 0000001f 0000001f 3fffbf74  
                                    3fff06f0:  0000004f 00000044 3fffbedc 0000000f  
                                    3fff0700:  0000000a 3fffc6fc 00000001 3ffef7bc  
                                    3fff0710:  3fffbec4 0000000f 00000000 3fffbe74  
                                    3fff0720:  0000000f 00000006 3fffbe4c 0000001f  
                                    3fff0730:  0000000a 3fffbe34 0000000f 00000003  
                                    3fff0740:  3fffbf0c 0000005f 00000050 00000000  
                                    3fff0750:  3fff09f0 3fff0840 3fff11b4 3fff07a8  
                                    3fff0760:  3fffdad0 00000000 0000000a 3fff3714  
                                    3fff0770:  402015da 00000001 00000001 3ffef7c4  
                                    3fff0780:  3fffdad0 000003e8 3fff09b4 4020945b  
                                    3fff0790:  3ffe9240 00000000 000003e8 00105ac9  
                                    3fff07a0:  3fff097c 3fffbe9c 00000000 40206c2c  
                                    3fff07b0:  3fffdad0 00000000 3ffef7bc 402097e3  
                                    3fff07c0:  00000000 00000000 00000001 40206bd5  
                                    3fff07d0:  3fffdad0 00000000 3ffef7bc 40206c00  
                                    3fff07e0:  feefeffe feefeffe 3ffef7d0 40101a44  
                                    << <stack<<< 8="" 16="" ets="" jan="" 2013,rst="" cause:2,="" boot="" mode:(3,0)="" load="" 0x4010f000,="" len="" 1384,="" room="" tail="" chksum="" 0x2d="" csum="" v09f0c112="" <="" pre="">this is from one of my build, so I guess the stack trace won't be that helpful</stack<<<>
                                    
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                                    • lolorcundefined
                                      lolorc
                                      last edited by

                                      [[language]]
                                      Exception (28):
                                      epc1=0x4000bf0e epc2=0x00000000 epc3=0x00000000 excvaddr=0x00000000 depc=0x00000000
                                      
                                      ctx: cont 
                                      sp: 3fff04f0 end: 3fff07d0 offset: 01a0
                                      
                                      >>>stack>>>
                                      3fff0690:  3fff1264 3fff0770 3fff06c0 3ffe964c  
                                      3fff06a0:  3fff1264 3fff0770 3fff06cc 4020c006  
                                      3fff06b0:  3fff1264 3fff0770 3fff0994 4020848c  
                                      3fff06c0:  00000000 00000000 00000000 3fffb9cc  
                                      3fff06d0:  0000000f 0000000a 3fffb9b4 0000000f  
                                      3fff06e0:  0000000a 3fffdad0 3ffef7a4 00000030  
                                      3fff06f0:  3fff9b3c 0000000f 00000000 3fff9b24  
                                      3fff0700:  0000000f 00000006 3fffbb54 0000001f  
                                      3fff0710:  0000000a 3fffbb3c 0000000f 00000003  
                                      3fff0720:  3fffb884 0000005f 00000050 00000000  
                                      3fff0730:  3fff09d0 3fff0820 3fff1194 3fff0788  
                                      3fff0740:  3fffdad0 00000000 0000000a 3fff36f4  
                                      3fff0750:  402015da 00000001 00000001 3ffef7a4  
                                      3fff0760:  3fffdad0 0000011d 3fff0994 4020945b  
                                      3fff0770:  3ffe9220 00000000 000003e8 0003fa5e  
                                      3fff0780:  3fff095c 3fffa044 00000000 40206c2c  
                                      3fff0790:  3fffdad0 00000000 3ffef79c 402097e3  
                                      3fff07a0:  00000000 00000000 00000001 40206bd5  
                                      3fff07b0:  3fffdad0 00000000 3ffef79c 40206c00  
                                      3fff07c0:  feefeffe feefeffe 3ffef7b0 40101a44  
                                      << <stack<<< 8="" 16="" 24="" ets="" jan="" 2013,rst="" cause:2,="" boot="" mode:(3,6)="" load="" 0x4010f000,="" len="" 1384,="" room="" tail="" chksum="" 0x2d="" csum="" v09f0c112="" ~ld="" wait="" wifi="" <="" pre="">this is with 1.13 (ch fork)</stack<<<>
                                      
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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
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                                        I presume epc1 is the program counter. Can you use the map file from your build to work out what function it is in? Also those 4020xxxx addresses on the stack look as though they may be program addresses, so again it would be useful to know what functions they are in.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • A Former User?
                                          A Former User
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                                          @lolorc: Thanks for the investigation of the issue.

                                          To me the whole wifi thing seems odd.
                                          I wonder why so few people have problems if it is a software bug.

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            @nokian:

                                            @lolorc: Thanks for the investigation of the issue.

                                            To me the whole wifi thing seems odd.
                                            I wonder why so few people have problems if it is a software bug.

                                            I presume there is something about your network that is triggering the bug. Am I right in thinking that you had the board working properly with a different network, or was that someone else?

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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