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  • undefined
    InSanity
    last edited by 16 Jan 2017, 14:20

    I just ran a bed probe:

    This was on a dirty piece of glass with some left over print residue.
    35 points probed, mean error -0.125, deviation 0.055

    On a different piece of semi clean glass:
    35 points probed, mean error -0.050, deviation 0.076

    and again on the same peice:
    35 points probed, mean error -0.170, deviation 0.073

    What command did you run to get the multi point probe ? I can try that.

    Edit: Whatever my results I'm getting really nice flat first layers with even widths. Probes were done at F300.

    Jeff

    Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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      Syko_Symatic
      last edited by 17 Jan 2017, 00:00

      So I will take the 5v and Gnd from the expansion port (pin 1 & 2) also taking the Servo pin from the same source (pin 8 (heater 3)).

      Now when wiring the bltouch black and white wires into the DuetWifi Z- probe pins do they go to 3.3v and Gnd or Z- probe in and GND?

      Also is it OK to crimp the resistor in with the pin connectors?

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        ThePigSlayer
        last edited by 17 Jan 2017, 00:19

        @Syko_Symatic:

        So I will take the 5v and Gnd from the expansion port (pin 1 & 2) also taking the Servo pin from the same source (pin 8 (heater 3)).

        Now when wiring the bltouch black and white wires into the DuetWifi Z- probe pins do they go to 3.3v and Gnd or Z- probe in and GND?

        Also is it OK to crimp the resistor in with the pin connectors?

        Z probe in and gnd. Be sure to use probe type 5 in M558. Also I dont see any problem crimping the resistor in the pin connector, as long as they are connected properly across. It might be easier to strip some insulation further up the wire though and put a bit of solder, but either or should work.

        –---

        And (In)Sanity here is my probing files, I have been using G30 S-1 to probe the single spot, the centre of my bed. For the G32 probe (auto bed compensation) my bed.g file contains this:

        M98 Pdeployprobe.g
        ; Probe the bed at 5 points
        G30 P0 X25 Y15 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P1 X25 Y175 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P2 X185 Y175 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P3 X185 Y15 H0 Z-99999
        G30 P4 X100 Y100 H0 Z-99999 S
        M98 Pretractprobe.g

        My mesh leveling macro is as follows:

        G91
        G1 Z6 F200
        G90
        M98 Pdeployprobe.g
        G29 S2
        M557 X20:180 Y20:180 S40
        G29
        M98 Pretractprobe.g

        I have contacted Antclabs, but if anyone has any other suggestions please let me know! Thanks

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          Syko_Symatic
          last edited by 18 Jan 2017, 22:45

          Do you have to define the servo pin anywhere? I'm thinking back to the way you use pins_Rumba.h to define the pins used in marlin, is there anything similar.

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 18 Jan 2017, 22:52

            The servo pin is defined by the P3 parameter in the M280 commands in the deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g files.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              Syko_Symatic
              last edited by 18 Jan 2017, 23:13

              Excellent! Do you define the bed limits for probing anywhere? Does this all currently look on track?

              Config.g:
              ; *** BLTouch and Compensation
              M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H3 F200 T5000 ; BLTouch Z probe, used for homing Z axis, dive height 3mm, probe speed 200mm/min, travel speed 5000mm/min
              G31 P1 X-25.0 Y58.0 Z-1.0 ; Set the Z-probe position and threshold

              Bed.g:
              G28 ;home all
              G91 ;relative mode
              G1 Z4 F200 ;move Z up 4mm for clearence
              G90 ;absolute mode
              M98 Pdeployprobe.g ;call macro
              G29 S2 ;clear bed compensation
              G29 ;run auto bed mesh level
              M98 Pretractprobe.g ;call macro
              G1 X10 Y10 F5000

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                Sniffle
                last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 00:54

                this is from my own config

                M557 X20:290 Y60:280 S60 ;probe boundaries with roughly 16 points (290-20=270/4=67.5 280-60=220/4=55)
                

                bounding box of x20 to x290, y60 to y280 with 60mm spacing

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                  zzing
                  last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 00:56

                  Deckingman said "I currently use DC42s excellent probe" what is this probe? I am in the market for my next printer…

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                    Sniffle
                    last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 01:15

                    @zzing:

                    Deckingman said "I currently use DC42s excellent probe" what is this probe? I am in the market for my next printer…

                    IR probe

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 07:39

                      @Syko_Symatic:

                      Excellent! Do you define the bed limits for probing anywhere? Does this all currently look on track?

                      Config.g:
                      ; *** BLTouch and Compensation
                      M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H3 F200 T5000 ; BLTouch Z probe, used for homing Z axis, dive height 3mm, probe speed 200mm/min, travel speed 5000mm/min
                      G31 P1 X-25.0 Y58.0 Z-1.0 ; Set the Z-probe position and threshold

                      Bed.g:
                      G28 ;home all
                      G91 ;relative mode
                      G1 Z4 F200 ;move Z up 4mm for clearence
                      G90 ;absolute mode
                      M98 Pdeployprobe.g ;call macro
                      G29 S2 ;clear bed compensation
                      G29 ;run auto bed mesh level
                      M98 Pretractprobe.g ;call macro
                      G1 X10 Y10 F5000

                      The Z-1.0 in the G31 command is wrong because the trigger height will be positive. You need to define the probing grid somewhere using M557. You don't need the G29 S2 before the G29.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        Syko_Symatic
                        last edited by 22 Jan 2017, 16:22

                        So I have wired everything loaded all my macros, re-pinned a z-stepper (grr) and now everything is nice and smooth. I am now stuck on how to calibrate the BLTouch on the Duet? I have done it in marlin before but wondered if anyone can point me in the right direction when doing it with the Duet?

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                          ElmoC
                          last edited by 23 Jan 2017, 01:32

                          I got my BLTouch installed and working on my CoreXY printer. I can home Z with it with no problems. I am now trying to get the rest of the configuration files setup for it.

                          I am running on a Duet 0.8.5 with 1.16 Firmware. My BLTouch (when looking from the front of the printer) is to the right and back of the nozzle (X50 Y37).

                          In config.g, I have
                          [c]M558 P4 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000 ; Switch for Z probe.
                          ; Move 5mm between probes.
                          ; Probe speed 100mm/min.
                          ; Travel speed 500mm/min.

                          G31 X50 Y36 Z2.35 P5 ; Set the probe height and threshold (put your own values here)
                          [/c]

                          From what I was reading for the G31 command, when I home Z and it triggers, it should set the Z position to 2.35. This is the distance I measured the nozzle is from the bed after homing the Z axis. But after homing, Z is at zero. So I'm not understanding something here.

                          For the axis minimums (this command is before the M558 and G31 commands), I have…
                          [c]M208 X-8 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minimum (adjust to make X=0 and Y=0 the edges of the bed)[/c]

                          Another question I have is with the G30 probing and the XY locations. If I use G30 with X150 Y100 in the bed.g file, where is the nozzle position suppose to end up? Would the nozzle be at 150,100 or would the offsets in the G31 be applied and the nozzle would actually be at 100, 64?

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                            Hey_Allen
                            last edited by 23 Jan 2017, 06:18

                            @Sniffle:

                            according to the bltouch people, to work with 3.3v logic electronics you only need a 240ohm resistor in line with the 2-wire endstop. that could be where your not getting a response.

                            I am feeling a little slow here, but is this in series with one of the wires, or bridging the IN and GND wires at the PROBE connector on a DuetWifi?

                            I finally got the +5VDC, COM, and H3 connections correct, and the probe deploying/retracting, but am not getting any input from the probe, and am really starting to doubt my wiring of the sensor portion.

                            Currently I have a 240 Ohm resistor across the two wires, crimped into Dupont pins with the wires from the hall sensor output, but it shows up as 0 on the Z-Probe on the web control screen when tested with the auto-test macro that was posted in this thread, nor if pressed directly. If it is unplugged, I see a value of 1000 on the Z-probe, and the field is shaded red.

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                              Syko_Symatic
                              last edited by 23 Jan 2017, 10:07

                              @Hey_Allen:

                              @Sniffle:

                              according to the bltouch people, to work with 3.3v logic electronics you only need a 240ohm resistor in line with the 2-wire endstop. that could be where your not getting a response.

                              I am feeling a little slow here, but is this in series with one of the wires, or bridging the IN and GND wires at the PROBE connector on a DuetWifi?

                              .

                              Spot on, you need to bridge the In and GND on the Z probe pins with the resistor.

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                                Sniffle
                                last edited by 23 Jan 2017, 17:22

                                @Hey_Allen:

                                @Sniffle:

                                according to the bltouch people, to work with 3.3v logic electronics you only need a 240ohm resistor in line with the 2-wire endstop. that could be where your not getting a response.

                                I am feeling a little slow here, but is this in series with one of the wires, or bridging the IN and GND wires at the PROBE connector on a DuetWifi?

                                I finally got the +5VDC, COM, and H3 connections correct, and the probe deploying/retracting, but am not getting any input from the probe, and am really starting to doubt my wiring of the sensor portion.

                                Currently I have a 240 Ohm resistor across the two wires, crimped into Dupont pins with the wires from the hall sensor output, but it shows up as 0 on the Z-Probe on the web control screen when tested with the auto-test macro that was posted in this thread, nor if pressed directly. If it is unplugged, I see a value of 1000 on the Z-probe, and the field is shaded red.

                                ok, due to the refresh rate of the website, it doesnt always capture the tiny pulse of the pin being triggered. that doesnt mean that the trigger isnt happening. If you put the bltouch(genuine, clones unknown) in an error state(blinking), an M119 should show the endstop triggered. Once you verify that use:

                                M280 P3 S10 I1
                                ```and manually trigger the pin over and over until you see it display in the web control. It wont display all the time but it will occasionally. It may not show a trigger(color change) on the web control, but you may get a value change on the signal value displayed. you need to put your tigger value below that number(or just use 25)
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                                  Hey_Allen
                                  last edited by 24 Jan 2017, 07:28

                                  Thank you for the confirmation on the wiring of the 240 Ohm resistor, and the instructions for testing it prior to trying to use it in automatic tests.
                                  I finally figured out that I had the probe wires reversed on the PROBE header, and once that was corrected was able to get it working.

                                  I'm not sure that I have everything working as it is best possible to do, but it has probed a grid on the bed, using G29, and can view the heightmap.csv file, but not the graph of it (loading screen, for >10 minutes in Chrome).

                                  edit: I eventually found that FireFox would load the graphic, no idea why Chrome won't on my machine. It also showed that my mechanical level was off again.

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                                    Etznab
                                    last edited by 29 Jan 2017, 06:35

                                    Good evening. I am very new to 3D printing and even newer to the Duet WIFI. I have the BLTouch connected and deploying and retracting. My problem is that I don't fully understand where and what to put into the System Directory XXX.g files and Macro files. Could someone please break this down barney style for me? Thanks in advance.

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                                      Syko_Symatic
                                      last edited by 31 Jan 2017, 14:20

                                      @Etznab:

                                      Good evening. I am very new to 3D printing and even newer to the Duet WIFI. I have the BLTouch connected and deploying and retracting. My problem is that I don't fully understand where and what to put into the System Directory XXX.g files and Macro files. Could someone please break this down barney style for me? Thanks in advance.

                                      You should put all config and home files in the system editor tab. Macros such as mesh level or anything that you might want to call during or before a print that are not going to be called in the config can go in the macro part. Any print files can be placed in the gcode files tab.

                                      I have an issue with the mesh level code.

                                      I have defined the BLTouch position: G31 X-25 Y58 Z0.73 P1
                                      I have defined my mesh size: M557 X15:300 Y15:160 S30

                                      My issue is I am not sure just what I am defining in the M557 command is it the probe position/head position? It works but I am curious as I want to cover as much bed as possible and am currently a little conservative with the positions. I also assume the firmware accounts for the probe offset when creating/using the height map?

                                      Thanks

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                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by 31 Jan 2017, 17:47

                                        @Etznab, for where the files go, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/SD_card_folder_structure.

                                        @Sylo_Symatic, the coordinates you put in M557 are the points you want to probe, so they are probe position not head position. The firmware will subtract the probe offset from them when positioning the head, and will leave out any points that would place the head outside the limits set by M208.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          redcurse
                                          last edited by 3 Feb 2017, 04:03

                                          Hi Everyone,

                                          I've been attempting to get my bltouch working on my duet wifi for a couple days now. I've gotten to the point where if I deploy the pin and manually push it up I can see in the web interface that its being triggered. I usually see something like 68 or 180 and the colour of the field is red. This will happen maybe once or twice every 30 or so times I push the pin.

                                          My issue is that it doesn't trigger when running auto calibration, the head just crashes into the bed every time. I'm new to reprapfirmware, coming from marlin, so I'm not sure if there is some configuration that I might be missing. I've tried following this thread as best as I can but nothing seems to be solving this issue.

                                          Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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