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    PrintMake
    last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 11:51

    Any information appreciated,.

    Where to begin with basic source file editing to mach da Vinci Jr. 1.0 hardware ???And how??
    It just would be unfair drill and make holes in to da Vinci Jr. 1.0 just to adapt duet! 😞
    Another reason is re use it all together, otherwise it will end up in a landfills ....

    SOS : I'm da Vinci Jr. 1.0 Please re use me and abuse me !!! 😄

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 14:16

      Do you have a schematic for the electronics?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        PrintMake @dc42
        last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 19:37

        @dc42
        Not yet .I'm happy to grab multimeter and dig out spider nest from the board 😉

        To make life easier..

        *A. Is where a way to add sam4e8e to Arduino IDE? If yes ,how?
        “Sketches for testing “

        Sam3 was added to Arduino isn’t it?!

        And Thank you MASTER:dc42 for quick response 😉

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          Danal
          last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 21:32

          Uhhh.... the DaVinci Jr. 1.0 seems to have a main board that is a combination of an Arduino Due and a RAMPS style shield.

          Specifically, it has a SAM3X8E processor. I'm sure you could get Duet/RepRap to compile to that target in Atmel Studio, but, that chip has 512K flash and 64K RAM. The RAM in particular is concerning. Duet2 hardware has 128K ram. Cutting RAM in half on an RTOS is not a good thing.

          Perhaps you could take enough things out of the code to make that work. Maybe.

          And... that board has "POLOLU" style drivers. Meaning probably A4988 or DRV8825 from the factory. You COULD replace those with TMC2100s, maybe.

          Having said all of that, you know there is a version of Repetier that can be configured to "just run" on that board, with no other changes? Nowhere near as nice as Duet/RepRap... still, it is known to work.

          Were I in your shoes, I'd either put Repetier on the existing board, or remove that board completely and install an actual Duet 2.

          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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            jay_s_uk
            last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 21:33

            Repetier is available for the Da Vinci but not the Jr. Not ones got any custom firmware to run.
            It also has a variant of Toshiba drivers.

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              Danal
              last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 02:37

              Ahhh... much more clear. Atmel SAM4E8E. Which means it actually does have 128K Ram.

              Might compile and load!

              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                PrintMake
                last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 10:23

                Does anyone knows what type sockets and plugs used in JR

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 16:43

                  Regarding the schematic and getting RRF to work on this machine, you may find this useful https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/issues/190

                  pyr0ball created this issue 6 Jul 2018, 06:24 in dc42/RepRapFirmware

                  closed Adding support / porting RepRapFirmware to Da Vinci Jr 1.0 #190

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    PrintMake
                    last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 18:19

                    Thanks again for info.I all already read this,sound Like JR hitting wall.

                    Just to summarise the idea:

                    *Reuse the Board
                    *Cannibalise the board-to rid off unnecessarily chips .
                    *Use fly wires “soldering “ to make connections
                    *Make it us much as Duet WiFi as possible
                    *Add WiFi module

                    bolded textitalicised textHelp required it just basic pin swap in source files (What files to edit for pins swap?)to match stepper drivers, end stops, thermistor and heater signals (pins).Very basic requirement to kick jr printer live. Jr can live without lcd .sd card slot should Mach pins anyway?!

                    SOS LoL

                    What files to edit for pin swap???
                    !!!Marlin was easy edit pins.h!!! ,and that’s it .
                    Is this the same with RRF???or Duet WiFi

                    “Let of the chest:Nothing personal”
                    “Rant
                    Lack of 4x20 or4x16 support??? And keypad?.
                    No videos on websites from duet creators with simple basic Tutorials -who is dreaming about duet3?? Duet2 is fancy enough!!!.
                    Why not spread the word about duet2 WiFi (Video support) and lower original board price to increase community.
                    “Board overpriced”!!!
                    Is where to many flavours in compile folder?!?and makes everything confusing.”

                    Once again nothing personal...

                    ================

                    Thanks

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 18:39

                      @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                      !!!Marlin was easy edit pins.h!!! ,and that’s it .
                      Is this the same with RRF???or Duet WiFi

                      no, because RRF is specific for the duet.

                      there is a lpc port of RRF
                      https://github.com/sdavi/RepRapFirmware/tree/v2-dev-lpc/EdgeRelease/ExampleBoardConfig
                      which has support for the popular skr v1.3.

                      @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                      No videos on websites from duet creators with simple basic Tutorials
                      there are a lot of tutorials on how to set up the duet on youtube
                      as well as a good guide like this https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37

                      Why not spread the word about duet2 WiFi

                      i dont think there are many people that have invested time into 3d printing that have not heard about the duet.

                      @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                      Lack of 4x20 or4x16 support??? And keypad?.

                      the duet hast the paneldue
                      the maestro supports the standard 12864 lcd. why would you want 4x20 support?

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                        PrintMake @Veti
                        last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 22:14

                        @Veti why would you want 4x20 support? Because junior printer has 😉

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                          Veti
                          last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 06:59

                          well you have your work cut out for you.
                          i dont think you will find a lot of people that are interested in doing this, as the price of the davinci board is more than the duet.
                          https://3dprintersuperstore.com.au/products/motherboard-for-da-vinci

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                            PrintMake @Veti
                            last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:00

                            @Veti oh did not see this,yes it is ripoff price.. 😞

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                              dc42 administrators @PrintMake
                              last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:12

                              @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                              What files to edit for pin swap???

                              The pin definitions are in two places:

                              • File CoreNG/variants/DuetNG/variant.cpp describes the capabilities of each pin. You would only need to change this file if you want to use a pin for a special function (e.g. a serial interface, or SPI interface) and the Duet doesn't use that pin for that function.
                              • The main pin definition is in file RepRapFirmware/src/DuetNG/Pins_DuetNG.h.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                PrintMake @dc42
                                last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:15

                                @dc42 And “NG” stads for?...

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                                  dc42 administrators @PrintMake
                                  last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:19

                                  @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                                  @dc42 And “NG” stads for?...

                                  "Next Generation", the code name we used for the Duet WiFi before we announced it.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    PrintMake
                                    last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:22

                                    Thank you

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                                      PrintMake @PrintMake
                                      last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:24

                                      @ViralTinker

                                      Forgot to ask ,what for is chip next to WiFi module connected together?is it for reset?

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                                        dc42 administrators @PrintMake
                                        last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:31

                                        @ViralTinker said in da Vinci Jr. 1.0:

                                        @ViralTinker

                                        Forgot to ask ,what for is chip next to WiFi module connected together?is it for reset?

                                        It's to detect the leading edge of the chip select signal from the WiFi module and cancel the data request. It could probably be eliminated by changing the firmware on the WiFi module, however when I wrote the firmware for that module, the documentation of the ESP8266 was so poor that it wasn't clear whether the chip supported edge-triggered interrupts or not.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          PrintMake
                                          last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 08:48

                                          Thanks a lot

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