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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      please post your config and overwrite.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        also this is a good read.
        http://boim.com/DeltaUtil/CalDoc/Calibration.html

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        • timmoundefined
          timmo @Veti
          last edited by timmo

          Good evening @Veti, config-override.g config.g

          That is a good read, thanks for sharing that!!

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          • Danalundefined
            Danal
            last edited by Danal

            why might the probe not be able to reach the coordinates (100, -60) and its mirror

            From your config.g, printable radius is 117.
            M665 R135 L290 B117 H300

            Or your config override:
            M665 L290.000:290.000:290.000 R133.311 H265.868 B117.0 X-1.335 Y-0.543 Z0.000

            A 100x60 unit rectangle just touches the limit of a 117 unit circle. To Scale:

            alt text

            Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957
              last edited by Dougal1957

              I would generate a new bed.G file using 110-115 Radius and try again you can use the config tool for this or use the one on Eschers web page Bed file generator use 6 factor and as many points as you like I would use 10 peripheral and 6 intermediate points (you can edit the output file to change the S6 at the end to S8).

              ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
              ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 115, probe offset (0, 0)
              G30 P0 X0.00 Y115.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P1 X73.92 Y88.10 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P2 X113.25 Y19.97 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P3 X99.59 Y-57.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P4 X39.33 Y-108.06 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P5 X-39.33 Y-108.06 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P6 X-99.59 Y-57.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P7 X-113.25 Y19.97 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P8 X-73.92 Y88.10 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P9 X0.00 Y57.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P10 X49.80 Y28.75 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P11 X49.80 Y-28.75 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P12 X0.00 Y-57.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P13 X-49.80 Y-28.75 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P14 X-49.80 Y28.75 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6
              
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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                you have a M665 H265.8 command after the M501 overwriting your overwrite.

                M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                that B4138 is the default and almost certainly wrong for your thermistor.

                G31 P100 X-0.8 Y0.9 Z14.23 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height - Probe V2

                thats a strange offset. is that because of the changed effector?

                btw i changed the probe on my Kossel Linear plus with this one and i am much happier.
                https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32841075715.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3def725epnbpTZ&algo_pvid=e1290575-fb8d-4525-94eb-6b75cf2be7fa&algo_expid=e1290575-fb8d-4525-94eb-6b75cf2be7fa-0&btsid=567f548b-df48-4a1a-8768-880feb9f1e62&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3,searchweb201603_55

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                • timmoundefined
                  timmo
                  last edited by timmo

                  I have been unable to upload screenshots of the height map to the forum so I have put uploaded into a google doc here:
                  https://docs.google.com/document/d/12lG_zHno2UNuHDC7RJ9nZtWuhsHGS9znnXJKTbSSxZU/edit?usp=sharing

                  @Danal and @Dougal1957 This is much more clear to me now, I have edited the bed.g file and the printer is hitting all the probe points now. Thank you

                  @Veti I liked the idea of the Anycubic probe when I was modelling the effector, in hindsight I would have gone with a Duet strain gauge effector. I have ordered the probe you linked, will give it a go. I have not payed much attention to the heater control yet - I'm panning to start reading about this, thank you too.

                  Which software parameters might be leading to the bed level pattern?

                  After reading the 'Calibration of Delta 3D Printers' that Veti posted I'm going to check for mechanical errors. There's not much in the way of backlash and the rods all within 10 microns of 290mm. I will check all the magnets are pressed into printed parts fully.

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                  • timmoundefined
                    timmo @timmo
                    last edited by

                    Edit: my rods are 285mm from the ball ends center to center

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      Are the joints magnetic, or something other type? The sharp curl up at the edges suggests to me that the joints are running out of movement.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • timmoundefined
                        timmo @dc42
                        last edited by timmo

                        @dc42 Magnetic, threaded steel balls sitting in countersunk disk magnets. There is ample clearance around the ball
                        joints for movement.

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