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Got a Maestro, please help me with setup.

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    Rat_Patrol
    last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 21:02

    I have a Robo R1+ that is getting a complete overhaul.

    What I have going:
    Titan Extruder, V6 w/volcano
    BLTouch
    24v Prusa MK52 clone
    Maestro controller
    RepRap discount controller. Don't really need anything with the web interface, but I like a control station at the machine.

    Here is what I need to do, please tell me what I can't do, and/or point me in the right direction:
    Setup of the steppers looks standard, no problems there.
    How to best use the E3D thermister for the volcano
    Possible active heated chamber? I print a lot of ABS.
    Sensorless homing seems straight forward. My new X carriage and idler accommodate sensorless homing.

    If I go with an active heated chamber, can the maestro handle chamber temps or do I need to keep it outside the chamber?
    Does the maestro need active cooling at all? Currently, the RAMPS it runs has a fan.

    I think all that should get me started 😄

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      Rat_Patrol
      last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 21:04

      Oh, power supply.

      I have the OEM bed reconfigured to run off a 24v Meanwell power supply (controlled via SSR). I would like to have the Maestro kill power after a print is done and the extruder is cooled down.

      A: Can this be done where I still have power/ethernet to the Maestro
      B: Do I need a CPU type power supply for this?

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        Phaedrux Moderator @Rat_Patrol
        last edited by Phaedrux 20 Dec 2019, 23:47

        @Rat_Patrol said in Got a Maestro, please help me with setup.:

        I have a Robo R1+ that is getting a complete overhaul.

        What I have going:
        Titan Extruder, V6 w/volcano
        BLTouch
        24v Prusa MK52 clone
        Maestro controller

        RepRap discount controller. Don't really need anything with the web interface, but I like a control station at the machine.

        You've got the option of using a PanelDue, or the Maestro supports a compatible 12864 LCD with rotary encoder.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_LCD_control_panel

        Here is what I need to do, please tell me what I can't do, and/or point me in the right direction:
        Setup of the steppers looks standard, no problems there.
        How to best use the E3D thermister for the volcano

        Use the values from the E3D documentation.

        https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/c/Volcano

        Possible active heated chamber? I print a lot of ABS.

        Anything is possible. The maestro has 2 extruder heaters. You could use the second one to control an SSR to power a chamber heater.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_a_chamber_heater

        Sensorless homing seems straight forward. My new X carriage and idler accommodate sensorless homing.

        Sensorless homing can work well. It will require some tuning though.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing

        If I go with an active heated chamber, can the maestro handle chamber temps or do I need to keep it outside the chamber?

        It would be best to keep it out of the chamber.

        Does the maestro need active cooling at all? Currently, the RAMPS it runs has a fan.

        If the maestro is going to be enclosed, then yes active cooling is recommended. Ideally it should be mounted vertically to allow for more efficient convection from both sides of the board.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_Duet_2_Maestro

        I think all that should get me started 😄

        There is an exemple guide for upgrading an Ender 3 with the Maestro. While specific to the Ender 3 it should give you an idea of what's involved converting and commissioning a printer with the Duet.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37

        Oh, there's also this main reference: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Step_by_step_guide

        And this for gcode: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode

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          Phaedrux Moderator @Rat_Patrol
          last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 23:53

          @Rat_Patrol said in Got a Maestro, please help me with setup.:

          Oh, power supply.

          I have the OEM bed reconfigured to run off a 24v Meanwell power supply (controlled via SSR). I would like to have the Maestro kill power after a print is done and the extruder is cooled down.

          A: Can this be done where I still have power/ethernet to the Maestro
          B: Do I need a CPU type power supply for this?

          Typically this would be done with an ATX power supply and using M80/M81 to turn it on and off. There's also the option of using a separate 5v power supply and SSR to control the main PSU.

          I've never bothered to go down that route and don't really have any guidance to give on that one.

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            dc42 administrators @Rat_Patrol
            last edited by dc42 21 Dec 2019, 07:47

            @Rat_Patrol said in Got a Maestro, please help me with setup.:

            Sensorless homing seems straight forward. My new X carriage and idler accommodate sensorless homing.

            The TMC2224 drivers on the Maestro do not support senseless homing.

            Does the maestro need active cooling at all?

            Above 1A motor current we recommend fan cooling. Likewise if the bed heater draws 15A or more.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              Rat_Patrol
              last edited by Rat_Patrol 21 Dec 2019, 16:38

              Looking at the option of a secondary 5v power supply for the Maestro and then controlling the main 24v power supply via SSR, where would the 5v input to the Maestro be? And then how many amps are required for the Maestro?

              And then 10-4 on needing homing sensors. Not a big deal to put them in.

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                Veti
                last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 16:48

                it depends on what you run on the 5v line.
                if its just the cpu, then normal usb power output is enough.
                if you run your fans on 5v, then scale accordingly.

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                  Rat_Patrol
                  last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 18:09

                  Can the Maestro be configured to turn off the hotend heatsink fan? That is really the only reason i would have to kill power after a print.

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                    Veti @Rat_Patrol
                    last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 18:14

                    @Rat_Patrol
                    the standard configuration in the configurator is that the hotend fan turns off once the hotend reaches temperatures below 45C.

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                      Rat_Patrol @Veti
                      last edited by 23 Dec 2019, 18:41

                      @Veti
                      Sweet.

                      I'll be working on the conversion over the next week or so, will post back if I have any questions!

                      Thanks all!

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