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    • Sowlanundefined
      Sowlan
      last edited by

      @Veti said in Bed flat at origin,inclined during prob sequence before printing:

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

      Tank you for your fast answer.
      Yes based on wiki I had yet make some changes in config.g for M671 (leadscrews positions) and in bed.g G30 (probe near leadscrews) but maybe you ask to me to focusing on it because my drive mapping show M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 and not Z2:4 for independent Z move, I'm intrigue by the fact independent Z move is here yet this's show by this problem and I the case I want static position on Z steppers I think this configuration is good. But is you are any idea about that I take it.

      change S80 to S10 and see how that looks.

      I had make this change but no really change

      resultats:

      my start test look like this
      Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 12.57.52.png

      Now after press on true leveling button
      Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 15.23.32.png

      and probing sequence before printing
      Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 15.25.47.png

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        @Sowlan said in Bed flat at origin,inclined during prob sequence before printing:

        I had make this change but no really change

        Please run Mesh bed leveling not true bed leveling.

        @Sowlan said in Bed flat at origin,inclined during prob sequence before printing:

        M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 and not Z2:4 for independent Z move

        without that the duet board can not address the z steppers indepenently so true bed leveling will have no effect.

        the case I want static position on Z steppers

        i dont quite understand, but as soon as power is off the position can be 2 full steps out of sync.

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        • Sowlanundefined
          Sowlan
          last edited by

          @Veti

          Please run Mesh bed leveling not true bed leveling.

          Ok now I understand more clearly the difference between both fonctions. Mesh bed leveling shown me an 29G error due to S10 is too low it tell me to try it S11.5, that's result more what you went, some think look like small ski area for fourmis.

          Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 16.44.58.png

          I have one G32 in my start script Simplify3D, I will delete it, leave G29 S0 and use S50 for grid mesh. and testing to print.

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          • Sowlanundefined
            Sowlan
            last edited by

            The problem hasn't changed

            When I click on Mesh bed compensation button I have this:
            Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 17.22.27.png

            and when I run printing mesh bed compensation change for that and printing result is very bad
            Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 17.27.31.png

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            • Sowlanundefined
              Sowlan
              last edited by

              Same test with S11.5 in M557, it's frustrating 😢

              mesh compensation without printing run
              Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 18.50.50.png

              and now mesh compensation before printing
              Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 19.18.50.png

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              • Sowlanundefined
                Sowlan
                last edited by

                Ok now I know what is the cause of problem but don't know how repair it.
                It's bed heating !!!

                test with bed heating off
                Capture d’écran 2020-01-19 à 21.55.29.png

                and now with with bed heating on at 60°C....
                Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 01.03.42.png

                Now what about my materials, I using d42 IR sensor with metal plate and modified CR-10 with magnet under it. Somebody know if by reputation something provoke it magnet, hearting, electromagnetism,etc... ?

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                • Sowlanundefined
                  Sowlan
                  last edited by Sowlan

                  I don't Know if this problem interest any peoples but I continue to investigate...

                  Now I tried same test without metal plat, probing on nude surface

                  without metal plat and cold bed
                  Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 11.35.19.png
                  Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 11.36.57.png

                  without metal plat and hot bed at 60°C
                  Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 10.53.54.png
                  Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 10.54.04.png

                  If any body know where come from this effect I'm interesting, Maybe @dc42 how have same name than my sensor have an idea?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by dc42

                    I suspect that the bed heat is causing the bed to warp. However, the large amount of variation in your height map indicates that the IR sensor does not work well with your bed surface. What is the bed made of?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • Sowlanundefined
                      Sowlan @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42

                      Hi thank you for you answer, I'd bought BLV kite from Bluerolls at aliexpress the bed I have is here

                      it's 310x310mm bed with metal plat and on the plate I have PEI protection.

                      Now I suspect something other, the side who falling is connector side, maybe electromagnetism from bed is the problem, I had do speed test with aluminum paper between bed and metal plate, with bed heating I view where the paper exceed out of bed mash map is relatively plate. Now I doing new test with exceed aluminum paper out of bed to view if it's that. I will be busy the next hour but I come soon with result of my test.

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                      • Sowlanundefined
                        Sowlan @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42
                        Finally I have small difference but not significant difference...

                        With metal plate, cold bed and paper aluminum border exceed
                        Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 14.11.11.png
                        Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 14.11.24.png

                        With metal plate, hot bed at 60°C and paper aluminum border exceed
                        Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 15.51.01.png
                        Capture d’écran 2020-01-20 à 15.50.54.png

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