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    T3P3Tony administrators
    last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 01:44

    Chris - Off topic: in watching these videos I saw a lot more of your YouTube channel. I find it hard to not sit and watch my printers printing, now I get to sit and watch your printer as well - live!

    Are you using Octoprint just for the video streaming or for control as well? if the printer on the stream running a Duet? Sorry forall the questions, just about to share this and want to be accurate.

    www.duet3d.com

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      croadfeldt
      last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 02:21

      Hey, glad I could help feed the addiction or bring the zen as it were. 🙂

      I need to update my description as I've shifted away from Octoprint and now use just the Duet Web interface for all the on screen stats and job control. I do like Octoprint's G-Code preview and being able to display that, but with the recent OBS changes and inclusion of the browser plugin, I have a single browser session for DWC in OBS that I carve up into the on-screen display you see in the stream. Prior to switching though, I used Octoprint for the onscreen stats, so if you go back a few months you will see Octoprint used to control my RAMPs setup and for a while the DuetWifi.

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 08:31

        Thanks, Chris! Looks like you are getting about 8C temperature drop when you start extruding, and 8C or 6C overshoot when you stop depending on whether the fan is off or on. Definitely worth adding a feedforward term if any one wants to print at those sort f speeds with a Volcano.

        Your temperature indication looks rather jittery. Are you using a thermistor, thermocouple, or PT100?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          croadfeldt
          last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 15:15

          You're welcome, I'm using a PT100. I've noticed the same thing that it jumps around a lot. The temp reading does stabilize eventually.

          Full disclosure - I suspect I have a 5 voltage issue on the board or my power supply though, as my screen backlight has been flashing constantly now for days. Will address that separately if needed after I find my multimeter… Anyhow, if the PT100 is driven by the same 5v rail, it might account for the jitter.

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 14 Dec 2016, 19:36

            The PT100 daughter board runs from the 3.3V rail.

            I have heard of another user seeing the PT100 readings jump around when the PT100 wires followed the extruder wires over some distance, so perhaps you have a similar interference issue in the cabling. The other possibility if you are using a 2-wire PT100 connection is that you have a connection in your PT100 circuit that isn't perfect.

            I use a 4-wire PT100 connection and the wires follow the extruder wiring for about 300mm and the hot end wiring for 1m. Despite this, my temperature readings are rock steady.

            I suggest you try monitoring the temperature readings under the following conditions:

            1. With the extruder motor off (send M84 E0) and the hot end off.

            2. With the extruder motor off and the hot end heater active.

            3. With the extruder motor on (e.g. after extruding, with the M906 idle current factor set to 100%) and the hot end heater off.

            That will tell you whether the extruder motor current and/or hot end heater current is interfering with the PT100 reading.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              InSanity
              last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 14:13

              Trying out this new firmware now, I still sometimes swear bed comp doesn't do what I expect it to. I'm thinking it's just caused by my Z axis motor and 2mm pitch lead screw just not having enough torque to hit any decent microsteps, more like 1/4 stepping.

              Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                InSanity
                last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 14:40

                Right wrong or otherwise on my part I just had a heater fault with 1.18 trying to print some PETG. I had the first layer set to 240C without cooling and then 245 for the second layer with cooling. I got a heater fault pretty much the instant it tried to switch to layer two saying the temp wasn't rising the 0.3 deg C;/s that was expected. My logic was I wanted the print to stick on the first layer and then bond to itself on subsequent layers. Trying the same print with flat 240C which I'm sure will work.

                Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                  InSanity
                  last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 15:12

                  Sorry for the post flood, is bed comp set by default to tapper off ? Doing a test print now with a piece of tape on the lead screw so I can see any movement. The first layer it was waving around, now it's doing nothing at all running the same span.

                  Thanks,

                  Jeff

                  Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 16:08

                    @(In)Sanity:

                    Right wrong or otherwise on my part I just had a heater fault with 1.18 trying to print some PETG. I had the first layer set to 240C without cooling and then 245 for the second layer with cooling. I got a heater fault pretty much the instant it tried to switch to layer two saying the temp wasn't rising the 0.3 deg C;/s that was expected. My logic was I wanted the print to stick on the first layer and then bond to itself on subsequent layers. Trying the same print with flat 240C which I'm sure will work.

                    Currently the heater gain is only measured during auto tuning with the print cooling fan off. With the fan on it is likely to be lower. That would explain why it is expecting 0.3C/sec but you don't get that. Reducing the gain in the M307 command by 20% or 30% should fix it, but you may then get some overshoot during initial heating.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      InSanity
                      last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 16:12

                      David, thanks for that. I also just ordered a new Z-Axis stepper and lead screw (one part) as I really think the 450 ma stepper is just not micro stepping at all well. It's the only remaining part of the printer. I've replaced all the electronics, motors, belts, shafts, rods, carriages, etc. Ohh and it would have been much cheaper to just buy a new printer..but not as much fun.

                      Edit: What I've noticed is sometimes the Z-Axis moves for bed comp as expected and sometimes it doesn't. I'll assume it's the motor.

                      Jeff

                      Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 16:22

                        @(In)Sanity:

                        Sorry for the post flood, is bed comp set by default to tapper off ? Doing a test print now with a piece of tape on the lead screw so I can see any movement. The first layer it was waving around, now it's doing nothing at all running the same span.

                        Thanks,

                        Jeff

                        By default the bed comp does not taper. You can check the setting by running M376 with no parameters.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          InSanity
                          last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 16:39

                          Hey I have another perhaps stupid question. Is the idle down percentage applied via the stepper driver chip or is this the firmware applying the settings ? The reason I ask is if the Z-Axis driver wasn't receiving any step commands is it possible it would idle down if say it took over 30 seconds to get the next step command ?

                          Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 21:33

                            Currently the current is reduced to the idle value only when no stepper motor has moved for the idle time.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              InSanity
                              last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 21:38

                              @dc42:

                              Currently the current is reduced to the idle value only when no stepper motor has moved for the idle time.

                              Ok, so it's the firmware telling them to idle down and not the chips themselves ?

                              Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by 17 Feb 2017, 21:51

                                Yes it's the firmware.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  Simspeed
                                  last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 00:11

                                  Please keep in mind the 4 motor Z axis upgrade DC….thanks.

                                  Custom C-Beam H-Bot - Hard mount 560mm x 800mm MIC 6 bed plate - 3mm PEI print surface- 120v mains silicone bed heater (3 zones) - 800mm Z axis - polycarbonate enclosure - (4) .09° Nema 23s (Z) - .09° Nema 17s (XY) - Bondtech extruders - E3D Cyclops hotend, 24V power supply

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                                    jrlederer
                                    last edited by 19 Feb 2017, 21:29

                                    quick question for ya:

                                    just updated to latest beta 1.18 firmware, eager to test the baby-stepping feature. only thing is don't know how to adjust the newly added function. please advise.

                                    thanks, in advance, and hope everyone is having a nice day!!

                                    –jonathan

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                                    "Insanity is doing the same thing over again, yet expecting different results..." --Albert Einstein

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 19 Feb 2017, 22:03

                                      Currently you send G92 R1 Z# where # is the amount you want to step in mm, in the range -1 to +1mm. I have created two macro files, containing commands G92 R1 Z0.05 and G92 R1 Z-0.05 to test with. In the final release I hope to have the machine react faster to babystepping commands than it does in current alpha2 release.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        jrlederer
                                        last edited by 20 Feb 2017, 07:54

                                        Thanks for the prompt reply…gonna give it a try in the morning.

                                        --Jonathan

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                                        "Insanity is doing the same thing over again, yet expecting different results..." --Albert Einstein

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                                          InSanity
                                          last edited by 20 Feb 2017, 21:15

                                          Installed the new 1.2A motor for the Z-Axis up from the 450ma motor. Bed comp now works much more predictably. Running out of stuff that's original on the printer outside of the shell.

                                          Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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