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    • fractalengineerundefined
      fractalengineer @A Former User
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      @bearer well I don't know what to say;

      -The duet is wired to my laptop using an ethernet cable
      -Laptop is connected to wifi router
      -I set M552 with a static address because M552 S1 P0.0.0.0 doesn't return a dynamic IP; nothing shows on my IP scanner either
      -I chose 192.168.0.11 because that's the one Octoprint was always dynamically assigned to on this rpi
      -Even with the static IP, every second time I enter it in the browser I get the DWC loading screen, or a timeout
      -The wireshark filter doesn't return any match
      -route print doesn't show any 192.168.0.11

      So it looks like all I can do is half access DWC on my browser, but it doesn't show any traffic?

      Railcore II ZL

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      • fractalengineerundefined
        fractalengineer @A Former User
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        @bearer here; I can see the DWC loading on my browser, but see the route print:

        C:\Users\titan>route print
        ===========================================================================
        Interface List
         21...00 ff fb 38 05 34 ......TAP-ProtonVPN Windows Adapter V9
          9...04 ea 56 1b 04 f5 ......Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter #5
         10...06 ea 56 1b 04 f4 ......Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter #6
         20...c4 65 16 9c a3 44 ......Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (7) I219-LM
         12...00 ff 97 d1 70 ad ......Kaspersky Security Data Escort Adapter
          8...04 ea 56 1b 04 f4 ......Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9560 160MHz
         17...04 ea 56 1b 04 f8 ......Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
          1...........................Software Loopback Interface 1
         11...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft Teredo Tunneling Adapter
        ===========================================================================
        
        IPv4 Route Table
        ===========================================================================
        Active Routes:
        Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
                  0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      192.168.0.1     192.168.0.12     50
                127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    331
                127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    331
          127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    331
              169.254.0.0      255.255.0.0         On-link   169.254.241.188    291
          169.254.241.188  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.241.188    291
          169.254.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.241.188    291
              192.168.0.0    255.255.255.0         On-link      192.168.0.12    306
             192.168.0.12  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.0.12    306
            192.168.0.255  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.0.12    306
                224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    331
                224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link   169.254.241.188    291
                224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link      192.168.0.12    306
          255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    331
          255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link   169.254.241.188    291
          255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.0.12    306
        ===========================================================================
        Persistent Routes:
          None
        
        IPv6 Route Table
        ===========================================================================
        Active Routes:
         If Metric Network Destination      Gateway
          1    331 ::1/128                  On-link
         11    331 2001::/32                On-link
         11    331 2001:0:2851:b9f0:28b2:445:3433:563f/128
                                            On-link
          8    306 fc00::/7                 fe80::be3e:7ff:fe67:de22
          8    306 fd00:bc3e:767:de22::/64  On-link
          8    306 fd00:bc3e:767:de22:686c:fd82:6fb9:1280/128
                                            On-link
          8    306 fd00:bc3e:767:de22:c463:3c86:4104:a35c/128
                                            On-link
         20    291 fe80::/64                On-link
          8    306 fe80::/64                On-link
         11    331 fe80::/64                On-link
         11    331 fe80::28b2:445:3433:563f/128
                                            On-link
         20    291 fe80::8dc5:6603:e8cd:f1bc/128
                                            On-link
          8    306 fe80::c463:3c86:4104:a35c/128
                                            On-link
          1    331 ff00::/8                 On-link
         20    291 ff00::/8                 On-link
          8    306 ff00::/8                 On-link
         11    331 ff00::/8                 On-link
        ===========================================================================
        Persistent Routes:
          None
        

        Railcore II ZL

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
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          (And this is why we say "If you don't like the weather in Bergen wait 5 minutes" ... its snowing now)

          Aaanyways, I suspected something like that after briefly looking at the capture.

          The computer doesn't have any network configured for the wired ethernet interface, so you'd have to set a static IP on the computer as well (and on a different network than 192.168.0.11) OR see if you can connect the ethernet cable from the Duet to your wifi router.

          As to why you can load the front page I can only put down to caching somehow, which I hoped to avoid by using a private or incognito browser window.

          So run the cable to the router or set static IPs for both the duet and the computer, choose something like 192.168.1.11 and 192.168.1.12 for the two (note 0 changed to a 1)

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          • fractalengineerundefined
            fractalengineer @A Former User
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            @bearer hey you're from norway 🙂 I visited Oslo once for a weekend while I lived in Sweden; I know what you mean lol

            Well chief at last we made some progress

            Connected the duet to the router, dynamic IP assignment worked for the first time, and DWC is FINALLY loading properly, at least locally:

            20c0523b-a2ac-46d7-894d-f8e1599dd26c-image.png

            How would I move forward making sure it works when running it through the RPi now?

            Railcore II ZL

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              A Former User @fractalengineer
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              @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

              How would I move forward making sure it works when running it through the RPi now?

              Not sure, even if the rPi were to suffer similar networking issues it still didn't find the Duet on the SPI bus so we're not gonna make much more progress on that front I suspect.

              I'd proceed to getting things set up and running as is while the Duet people are working on getting RRF 3.01 to a stable release. The config you make for the Duet in stand alone mode should transfer to using with a pi afaik.

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              • fractalengineerundefined
                fractalengineer @A Former User
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                @bearer but it worked fine over the pi before; I can't leave the machine wired to the router, I don't need the latest 3.01 either

                Is there a way to make it work with the pi with RRF 3.0?

                Railcore II ZL

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

                  It should have worked with the clean Pi image and RRF3.0 afaik.

                  I think I missed that it previously worked; what happened when it stopped working?

                  You can go back to the pi and we can chase down the network if thats the problem, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

                  If you don't make any progress on using the Pi as intended, we can turn it into a wifi bridge so you can get on with things without having the cable running to the router. (Or you could set a static ip for your computer - possibly even use internet sharing if your windows has that feature)

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                  • fractalengineerundefined
                    fractalengineer @A Former User
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                    @bearer thanks, I'd be keen to troubleshoot the network issue on the pi first.

                    I don't think I did anything crazy since it last worked; I had to plug/unplug the ribbon a few times as I was still using that pi for octoprint on another printer while waiting for the final parts of that new printer to show up

                    I never unplugged the ribbon while powered, and only noticed the DWC connection issue when I first powered the Duet through VIN

                    Railcore II ZL

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                      A Former User
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                      I don't think the pi issue is network related, but if you capture the traffic with wireshark I'll take a look.

                      do make sure to not try to access the pi 5 minutes before starting the capture (should ensure wireshark picks up the ARP traffic, or run arp -d * in an elevated command prompt)

                      If you still find

                      Apr 12 15:58:56 duet3 DuetControlServer[4530]: [error] Duet is not available

                      when running journalctl -u duetcontrolserver -e (don't think you should need sudo for that, but stick sudo in front if it doesn't work) then its not going to work no matter what we do to the network.

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @fractalengineer
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                        @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                        only noticed the DWC connection issue when I first powered the Duet through VIN

                        so it never worked through VIN?

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                        • fractalengineerundefined
                          fractalengineer @A Former User
                          last edited by fractalengineer

                          @bearer Ok I plugged the pi back, changed sd card and replace the config file, as well as flash the board back to rrf3.0

                          • Still not working
                          • I don't know how to run that arp command; here's what I get:
                          pi@duet3:~ $ arp -d *
                          Desktop: Unknown host
                          pi@duet3:~ $ sudo arp -d *
                          Desktop: Unknown host
                          pi@duet3:~ $
                          
                          • Journal command still reports unavailable Duet

                          • Either way here's the capture; pi's IP is 192.168.0.11, I start by logging in SSH, then try to launch DWC in browser, first normal then private session. That's what's in it: https://we.tl/t-2T4XTTek8p

                          • A friend of mine will let me borrow his Pi 4 tomorrow to narrow down whether the issue comes from the duet or the pi

                          • It powers up through VIN but behaves just like powered through USB; DCS unavailable

                          Thank you

                          Railcore II ZL

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User @fractalengineer
                            last edited by A Former User

                            @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                            I don't know how to run that arp command; here's what I get:

                            my bad, instructions uncear. that would be a windows command, as we'd want to clear the arp cache on the host running wireshark. (but its moot point, no doubt about which host the pi is, and seems to be no firewall issue)

                            @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                            Journal command still reports unavailable Duet

                            thats a problem between the pi and the Duet over the spi bus. can you do ls -l /dev/spi* on the pi?

                            @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                            A friend of mine will let me borrow his Pi 4 tomorrow to narrow down whether the issue comes from the duet or the pi

                            i might be paranoid, but i'd get Peter Griffins volcano insurance just in case.

                            I'll have a (closer) look at the wireshark log a bit later, but when DCS reports the Duet is unavailable then thats where the problem is.

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                            • fractalengineerundefined
                              fractalengineer @A Former User
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                              @bearer

                              my bad, instructions uncear. that would be a windows command, as we'd want to clear the arp cache on the host running wireshark. (but its moot point, no doubt about which host the pi is, and seems to be no firewall issue)

                              thanks for clarifying; I can try the arp command again if that capture doesn't work

                              thats a problem between the pi and the Duet over the spi bus. can you do ls -l /dev/spi* on the pi?

                              Sure here's what I get; I did remember very clearly enabling SPI during the setup process

                              pi@duet3:~ $ ls -l /dev/spi*
                              crw-rw---- 1 root spi 153, 0 Apr 12 15:45 /dev/spidev0.0
                              crw-rw---- 1 root spi 153, 1 Apr 12 15:45 /dev/spidev0.1
                              

                              i might be paranoid, but i'd get Peter Griffins volcano insurance just in case.

                              Lol what do you mean?

                              And thank you again for all the support; looking forward to hear what you see in that capture

                              Cheers

                              Railcore II ZL

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                                A Former User @fractalengineer
                                last edited by A Former User

                                @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                                thanks for clarifying; I can try the arp command again if that capture doesn't work

                                No need, and capture looks about as expected, computer connects to Pi they switch to websockets and everyone is happy as far as I can tell.

                                Problem likely lies in that DuetWebControl which runs on the pi and cannot connect to DuetControlServer because its cannot find the Duet on the SPI bus and doesn't start.

                                @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                                Sure here's what I get; I did remember very clearly enabling SPI during the setup process

                                You're not using the image from here? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/SBC_Setup_for_Duet_3 (it should have SPI and other stuff ready to go)

                                In any case I don't think I can pinpoint problems any further than its beetween DCS and the Duet3 board. Maybe dropping the SPI speed could be worth a try, if no one beats me to it I'll see if I can't post some instructions later.

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                                • fractalengineerundefined
                                  fractalengineer @A Former User
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                                  @bearer

                                  You're not using the image from here? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/SBC_Setup_for_Duet_3 (it should have SPI and other stuff ready to go)

                                  Seems to be the same as the one linked in the "get started" guide, so I'd say yes

                                  I have no clue how to do the spi speed thing so I'll be on the lookup; thanks

                                  Railcore II ZL

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                                    A Former User @fractalengineer
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                                    @fractalengineer said in Duet3/pi flashing Diag LED after wiring 24V DCS is unavailable:

                                    I have no clue how to do the spi speed thing so I'll be on the lookup; thanks

                                    neither did I.. 😁

                                    and a few quick searches didn't bear fruits, however https://forum.duet3d.com/post/109561

                                    the config.json file would be /opt/dsf/conf/config.json

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                                      A Former User
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                                      Oh, do make a note of what the speed was before reducing it.

                                      grep "SpiFrequency" /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                      sed -i 's/^  "SpiFrequency": [0-9]*,/  "SpiFrequency": '500000',/' /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                      grep "SpiFrequency" /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                      

                                      should give you

                                      pi@duet3:~ $ grep "SpiFrequency" /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                        "SpiFrequency": 8000000,
                                      pi@duet3:~ $ sed -i 's/^  "SpiFrequency": [0-9]*,/  "SpiFrequency": '500000',/' /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                      pi@duet3:~ $ grep "SpiFrequency" /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                        "SpiFrequency": 500000,
                                      pi@duet3:~ $
                                      

                                      showing it changed from 8mhz to 500khz - if it works try increasing it until it stops working and back off say 1mhz.

                                      if not, verify the board still does respond to M122 on the serial terminal, no sd card in the duet (should be clear from M122 output as well) and call in the cavalry.

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                                      • fractalengineerundefined
                                        fractalengineer @A Former User
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                                        @bearer Hi,

                                        Ok so today I tried on another RPi 4. Had to power the Duet back on VIN to supply enough juice for both the Duet and Pi, but still no luck. Even on the HDMI screen, shows DCS unavailable.

                                        Spi Freq was:

                                        pi@duet3:~ $ grep "SpiFrequency" /opt/dsf/conf/config.json
                                          "SpiFrequency": 2000000,
                                        

                                        Changed it to 500kHz

                                        Still no luck.

                                        Here's the M122 result.

                                        M122
                                        === Diagnostics ===
                                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 version 3.0 running on Duet 3 MB6HC
                                        Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S4-6J9F6-3S86T-KA5LD
                                        Used output buffers: 1 of 32 (12 max)
                                        === RTOS ===
                                        Static ram: 152720
                                        Dynamic ram: 148548 of which 0 recycled
                                        Exception stack ram used: 308
                                        Never used ram: 91640
                                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,1984) HEAT(blocked,1416) CanReceiv(suspended,3808) CanSender(suspended,1476) CanClock(blocked,1424) TMC(blocked,212) MAIN(running,3652) IDLE(ready,160)
                                        Owned mutexes:
                                        === Platform ===
                                        Last reset 00:11:35 ago, cause: power up
                                        Last software reset at 2020-04-04 15:59, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 79620 bytes (slot 0)
                                        Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0440f000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                        Error status: 0
                                        Free file entries: 10
                                        SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                                        SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                        MCU temperature: min 43.9, current 44.2, max 44.3
                                        Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.1, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                        12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                                        Driver 0: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Driver 1: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Driver 2: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Driver 3: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Driver 4: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Driver 5: standstill, reads 12938, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                        Date/time: 1970-01-01 00:00:00
                                        Slowest loop: 0.28ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                                        === Move ===
                                        Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 375, MinFreeDm: 375, MaxWait: 0ms
                                        Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                        === MainDDARing ===
                                        Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                        === AuxDDARing ===
                                        Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                        === Heat ===
                                        Bed heaters = -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                                        === GCodes ===
                                        Segments left: 0
                                        Stack records: 1 allocated, 1 in use
                                        Movement lock held by null
                                        http is idle in state(s) 0
                                        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                        file is idle in state(s) 0
                                        serial is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
                                        aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                        daemon* is idle in state(s) 0 0, running macro
                                        queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                        lcd is idle in state(s) 0
                                        spi is idle in state(s) 0
                                        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                        Code queue is empty.
                                        === Network ===
                                        Slowest loop: 0.28ms; fastest: 0.01ms
                                        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                        HTTP sessions: 0 of 8
                                        - Ethernet -
                                        State: 0
                                        Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                                        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                        === CAN ===
                                        Messages sent 0, longest wait 0ms for type 0
                                        === Linux interface ===
                                        State: 0, failed transfers: 0
                                        Last transfer: 695578ms ago
                                        RX/TX seq numbers: 0/1
                                        SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                                        Number of disconnects: 0
                                        Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
                                        ok
                                        

                                        Something must be wrong with the board; it worked fine until I first powered it through VIN; I never shorted it either the fuses are mint.

                                        Railcore II ZL

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                                        • A Former User?
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                                          Maybe @dc42 can share some insight?

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                                          • dc42undefined
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                                            We hope to have new RRF 3.01RC7+DSF+DWC released later today, so probably best to wait for those.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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