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    • Steve Lynchundefined
      Steve Lynch
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      actually, It was waiting for a restart.... I may have created that problem myself... I was in 3.0 when I originally posted. I switched back down for last night, so I could print, and re-loaded from the configurator a little bit ago... I must not have re-specified my firmware version in the configurator when I uploaded My JSON. Sorry... I've been trying so may things, that I lost track...

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      • Steve Lynchundefined
        Steve Lynch
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        I just started fresh.... Probe deploys and retracts now! It was the extra C"duex.pwm5" that was in my "deploy probe" that was causing the problem. Just removed it, and I Heard it click!

        So I was sooo close... Just had extra crap in the command.. Drats!

        Now to figure out My heaters.... I think I probably have to specify ports and stuff for them. I'll go try that, and leave you alone unless I can't get it!

        Also, the Configurator inserted extra lines in My BLTouch section. Stuff about Mod Probe, and servo angle and such.. It was not in the lines @Phaedrux sent me, so I deleted it.

        I appreciate your patience...

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        • Steve Lynchundefined
          Steve Lynch
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          @dc42 @Phaedrux

          Thanks for helping me get this far. I'm down to 2 little dilemmas now... Well, Possibly three, but We'll just stick with the two...

          I've asked all around, and cannot seem to find an answer. What is the Gcode in 3.0 to release a BLTouch Alarm, and Pull Pin Up? I know thew old code was:

          M280 P0 S160.

          That's changed, and I tried replacing the P0 with C"duex.pwm5" but that doesn't seem to work.

          What's happening is that my BLTouch deploys, homes, then goes into "Flashing Mode" saying the pin was already triggered. Any Ideas?

          Lastly, I've always controlled lights Via PWM fan ports.

          I'm in Fan/LED 3 and Fan/LED 4 on the duex.

          If I make a macro with:

          M950 F3 C"!duex.fan3" Q0
          M950 F4 C"!duex.fan4" Q0

          Both Lights Turn Off

          any Q number over "1" results in full brightness.

          I used to be able to dim the lights using an integer between 1-255. any number I put in there now results in Full Brightness. These LEDS are extremely high output, so To avoid the extreme heat they put off, I simply dim them to 50%

          Any suggestions on how to change the dimming value? I believe it was reducing the voltage the way it used to do it. Do you know what the new way is? Thanks!

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Steve Lynch
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            @Steve-Lynch said in Just a little lost re: upgrading to 3.0 firmware.:

            I used to be able to dim the lights using an integer between 1-255

            Can you try a decimal number between 0 and 1? 0.1, 0.2, etc?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @Steve Lynch
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              @Steve-Lynch said in Just a little lost re: upgrading to 3.0 firmware.:

              @dc42 @Phaedrux

              Thanks for helping me get this far. I'm down to 2 little dilemmas now... Well, Possibly three, but We'll just stick with the two...

              I've asked all around, and cannot seem to find an answer. What is the Gcode in 3.0 to release a BLTouch Alarm, and Pull Pin Up? I know thew old code was:

              M280 P0 S160.

              Assuming you are using servo index 0 to control the BLTouch, that should still work.

              Lastly, I've always controlled lights Via PWM fan ports.

              I'm in Fan/LED 3 and Fan/LED 4 on the duex.

              If I make a macro with:

              M950 F3 C"!duex.fan3" Q0
              M950 F4 C"!duex.fan4" Q0

              Both Lights Turn Off

              any Q number over "1" results in full brightness.

              I used to be able to dim the lights using an integer between 1-255. any number I put in there now results in Full Brightness. These LEDS are extremely high output, so To avoid the extreme heat they put off, I simply dim them to 50%

              Any suggestions on how to change the dimming value? I believe it was reducing the voltage the way it used to do it. Do you know what the new way is? Thanks!

              Remove the ! and the Q0 parameters in those two M950 commands.

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              • Steve Lynchundefined
                Steve Lynch
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                BL Touch - Solved

                Light control: The lights will only light up of I invert the pins with !

                I tried removing them, and even tried swapping polarity. they will not trigger without the ! character.

                They work fine without the "Q" value, but will not dim. Is a fan output the best way to do this? should I specify it as something else? say, a Heater? Either way, what would be the method to reduce the power to the lights, for, say, 50% brightness?

                thanks so much!

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                • dc42undefined
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                  The M950 command just assign fan number to the fan ports. To control the PWM, use M106 as usual. For example:

                  M950 F3 C"duex.fan3"
                  ...
                  M106 P3 S0 ; LED off
                  M106 P3 S1 ; LED on
                  M106 P3 S0.5 ; LED half brightness

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                  • Steve Lynchundefined
                    Steve Lynch
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                    OK, thanks.. I was trying to use M42, as specified in the documentation. I got everything else working now. Thanks a lot! This new system is a lot easier to wrap my head around

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @Steve Lynch
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                      @Steve-Lynch said in Just a little lost re: upgrading to 3.0 firmware.:

                      OK, thanks.. I was trying to use M42, as specified in the documentation. I got everything else working now. Thanks a lot! This new system is a lot easier to wrap my head around

                      You can either use M950 Fn to create a fan port, then M106 Pn Sn to control it; or you can use M950 Pn to create a GpOut port, then use M42 Pn Sn to control it.

                      Using a fan port gives you a slider to control it in DWC, and options for direct thermostatic control. Using a GpOut port gives you neither of these, however you can still use the daemon.g file to have the LEDs change automatically in response to e.g. temperature or printer state.

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                      • Steve Lynchundefined
                        Steve Lynch
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                        Excellent info! Thanks! I've worked my way up to 3.1.1, and actually got 2 other people upgraded and configured now as well. Thanks for all of the help!

                        I realize it can be frustrating, when people like me who don't really have a solid grasp of the language are trying to learn. But I am learning, and I'm always willing to help others when I can, so I will pass the knowledge on to others at every opportunity..

                        And again, I understand this new naming convention a lot better. i like what you did. It was a bit confusing at first, but the more I read, the more it makes sense! Kudos!

                        I do have one small issue left, and I've put a day into it myself, without trying to bother you... I'm just stumped though.

                        My bed heater keeps erroring out.... I've pid tuned several times... It's just not liking it.. It reaches about 50 degrees, and then errors...

                        Here are My 2.5 values, which work fine in 2.5....

                        ; Thermistors
                        M305 P0 T100000 B3950 R4700 H0 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the bed thermistor ADC correction
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4725 R4700 H0 L0 C7.06e-8 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the first nozzle thermistor ADC correction

                        M307 H0 A240.3 C608.7 D8.2 S1.00 V24.1 B0 ; Bed Heater
                        M307 H1 A270.7 C90.4 D6.7 B0 S1.0 ;Heater 1 model
                        M570 S360 ; Hot end may be a little slow to heat up so allow it 180 seconds
                        M143 S285

                        Here are My 3.1.1 values. Do you see any problem?
                        ; Heaters
                        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                        ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                        ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ;Temp Comment out for experimentation ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

                        M307 H0 A340.0 C140.0 D8.2 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                        M307 H1 A622.1 C260.5 D3.1 S1.00 V24.0 B0

                        Also, should bed be in PID mode? I've not used Bang Bang before.. Pid seems safer..

                        Thanks!

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Steve Lynch
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                          @Steve-Lynch No bother at all.

                          Yes PID for bed. Just say no to bang-bang.

                          What error message are you getting?

                          When you do the PID tune for the bed, are you saving the values to config-override with M500? Do you have M501 in config.g to load them? Or are you transferring them over to config.g?

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                          • dc42undefined
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                            Have you tried using the same M307 H0 command for RRF 3.1.1 that you used for RRF 2.05? The values shouldn't have changed significantly.

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                            • Steve Lynchundefined
                              Steve Lynch
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                              Trying now!

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                                Steve Lynch @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux

                                It's telling me that it's heating slower than expected... Trying my 2.5 variables now.

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                                • Steve Lynchundefined
                                  Steve Lynch
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                                  Well, son of a gun! The 2.5 variables work...

                                  I wonder why the pid tune numbers are so different?

                                  Is there any particular Pid tune regimen you recommend?

                                  Preheat heaters? Nozzle to the bed? fans full on?

                                  I try to do it with the "real world" environment it will be printing in. (e.g. fans on) is that the wrong train of thought?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Steve Lynch
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                                    @Steve-Lynch said in Just a little lost re: upgrading to 3.0 firmware.:

                                    I try to do it with the "real world" environment it will be printing in. (e.g. fans on) is that the wrong train of thought?

                                    That's how I do it too. Not sure why the values would be so different.

                                    What are your 2.5 values?

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                                    • Steve Lynchundefined
                                      Steve Lynch
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                                      Let's Mark this Bad Boy Solved!

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                                      • Steve Lynchundefined
                                        Steve Lynch @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux

                                        old values, and new values posted above.

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