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Formbot Troodon RRF 3.1.1 Update

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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 16:57

    well they have a few errors for a RRF3 config, but nothing that I can see would cause issues...

    M574 Z0 P"nil" ; no Z endstop switch, free up Z endstop input
    You can remove that line to stop the M574 type 0 not supported error

    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; set PID tuned settings for heater 0
    You can remove that line to stop the heater 3 not found error

    M140H0 There should be a space between M140 and H0

    ; --- Set or report heating process parameters---
    M106 P3 I-1
    M106 P4 I-1
    M106 P5 I-1
    M106 P6 I-1
    M106 P7 I-1
    M106 P8 I-1
    

    I'm not sure what their intention is for this block, but inverting the pin is done with M950 in RRF3. I'd just remove those lines. that's the fan not found errors.

    M569 P2 R-1
    M569 P4 R-1
    M569 P9 R-1
    

    These lines should function to stop monitoring those missing drivers you mention, but they don't seem to be working in 3.1.1. I'm not sure what has changed.

    Can you try sending them again in the console?
    What do you get if you send M569 by itself?

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      InsanityAutomation
      last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 17:42

      Those do function to stop the flood of warnings that were present before adding them. The command goes green in the terminal after sending on DWC with no error reported. No change in M122 output.

      If my memory is correct, the M574 command was included in the 3.0 documentation on setting up the BLTouch to release the z endstop pin. Is there another line required to do the same thing with 3.1.1 or is it unassigned by default?

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        Phaedrux Moderator @InsanityAutomation
        last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 17:59

        @InsanityAutomation said in Formbot Troodon RRF 3.1.1 Update:

        is it unassigned by default?

        Exactly. In order to be more generic there are no more assumed assignments. Instead you use M950 to define the pins you are using. In your case for the BLTouch that would be M950 S0 C"duex.pwm5"

        Sorry for M569 you'll need to specify the driver number as well so try sending M569 P2

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          InsanityAutomation
          last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:00

          M569 P2
          Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 127

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            InsanityAutomation
            last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:03

            Seems akismet wants to flag it as spam for some reason... lol Im adding a bit more content above it to try and get rid of that warning....

            M569 P0
            Drive 0 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P1
            Drive 1 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P2
            Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
            
            M569 P3
            Drive 3 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P4
            Drive 4 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
            
            M569 P5
            Drive 5 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P6
            Drive 6 runs in reverse, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P7
            Drive 7 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P8
            Drive 8 runs in reverse, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
            
            M569 P9
            Drive 9 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
            
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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:08

              so are you still getting the errors when trying to move the axis after you've sent:

              M569 P2 R-1
              M569 P4 R-1
              M569 P9 R-1
              

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                InsanityAutomation
                last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:21

                @Phaedrux said in Formbot Troodon RRF 3.1.1 Update:

                M569 P4 R-1

                Yup, no change in function or output sending those manually.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:25

                  Alright. I'm not sure what changed between 3.0 and 3.1.1 that would explain this. You'll have to hold tight until @dc42 has a chance to take a look. It is likely related in some way to the odd combo board being used.

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                    InsanityAutomation
                    last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:26

                    Id assume so as well. When I showed Tony the board at ERRF last year he was glad to see something not a direct clone for a change but here is the risk of it not being a direct clone lol

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:27

                      Yes it's definitely an interesting beast. Do you have any other info on it? I wasn't able to get much from googling.

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                        InsanityAutomation
                        last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 18:30

                        I can grab some photos of it when I get home (Remote VPN for last testing bits!) Personally I really like the removable drivers despite the thermal constraints as they are still one of the most failure prone components on these boards. People who (ab)use machines like I do tend to go through a few of em....

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                          InsanityAutomation
                          last edited by 17 Jun 2020, 02:07

                          Heres a few photos : https://photos.app.goo.gl/N7Ea1rB1NPq9jCTEA

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                            InsanityAutomation
                            last edited by 1 Jul 2020, 15:14

                            Figured I'd bump this and see if anyone had any other idea before i dig into source myself.

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                              doubleohwhatever @InsanityAutomation
                              last edited by 1 Sept 2020, 10:28

                              @InsanityAutomation It appears newer machines are shipping with a slightly different board:
                              https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2806644909555472&id=100006299702277&set=gm.949439705562814&source=57

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                                Guzzi
                                last edited by Guzzi 9 Apr 2020, 09:09 4 Sept 2020, 09:02

                                I have exactely the same issue on my Troodon, but I'm using a different (self made) config.g file. So i'm back on 3.0 for now. And I do have a newer board which is black.

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Guzzi
                                  last edited by 4 Sept 2020, 18:22

                                  @Guzzi Does Troodon give any firmware guidance with regards to the custom board?

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                                    doubleohwhatever
                                    last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 06:14

                                    From what I can tell, the stock firmware for the Troodon isn't even available for download anywhere. The firmware for their other machines is provided via zip files hosted on a variety of file hosts (some on drop box, some on google drive, etc).

                                    Also, Vivedino/Formbot appears to be a very small company. It looks like their entire lineup aside from the Troodon uses the same marlin motherboard.

                                    All of this combined makes me think that perhaps a 3rd party designs boards for them. If that's the case then they may not even have someone who could provide help with firmware.

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                                      Guzzi @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 19 Sept 2020, 19:37

                                      @Phaedrux no they only provide the firmware which the machine is shipped with. So 2.03RC3. I asked them if they already have a config for 3.0. They told me that if I wan't to upgrade I have to write my own. So that's what I did but unfortunately had the fault issue on 3.1.1.

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                                        nomukaiki @Guzzi
                                        last edited by 4 Oct 2020, 12:49

                                        @Guzzi Hi. Could you please share you configuration files for the 3.0?

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                                          Guzzi
                                          last edited by 5 Oct 2020, 20:06

                                          Hi, here is my config file:

                                          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                          ;
                                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sun Aug 30 2020 21:21:23 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)
                                          
                                          ; General preferences
                                          M111 S0                                            	; debugging off
                                          G21                                                	; work in millimetres
                                          G90                                                	; send absolute coordinates...
                                          M83                                                	; ...but relative extruder moves
                                          M550 P"Troodon"                                    	; set printer name
                                          M669 K1                                            	; select CoreXY mode
                                          M555 P2                                            	; set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                                          
                                          ; Network
                                          M552 S1                                            	; enable network
                                          M586 P0 S1                                         	; enable HTTP
                                          M586 P1 S0                                         	; disable FTP
                                          M586 P2 S0                                         	; disable Telnet
                                          
                                          ; Drives
                                          M569 P0 S1 D2                                      	; X
                                          M569 P1 S1 D2                                      	; Y
                                          M569 P3 S1 D2                                      	; E0
                                          M584 X0 Y1 E3 Z6:5:8:7                             	; set drive mapping // four Z motors, at 5, 6, 7, and 8
                                          M671 X-100:-100:420:420 Y380:-115:-115:380 S20     	; Z belts at 4 corners
                                          
                                          ; Duex5
                                          M569 P5 S1 D2     				   				   	; Z5
                                          M569 P6 S0 D2									   	; Z6
                                          M569 P7 S1 D2									   	; Z7
                                          M569 P8 S0 D2					   				   	; Z8
                                          M569 P2 R-1										   	; -1 = driver is always disabled and is not monitored
                                          M569 P4 R-1										   	; -1 = driver is always disabled and is not monitored
                                          M569 P9 R-1										   	; -1 = driver is always disabled and is not monitored
                                          
                                          ; Drive map
                                          ;    _______
                                          ;   | 6 | 7 |
                                          ;   | ----- |
                                          ;   | 5 | 8 |
                                          ;    -------
                                          ;     front
                                          
                                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            	; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E710.00                  	; set steps per mm
                                          M566 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z600.00 E300.00             	; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                          M203 X20000.00 Y20000.00 Z1500.00 E3600.00         	; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z500.00 E600.00             	; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E430 I60                    	; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                          M84 S60                                            	; Set idle timeout
                                          
                                          ; Axis Limits
                                          M208 X5 Y0 Z0 S1                                   	; set axis minima to end of safe travel
                                          M208 X410 Y408 Z510 S0                             	; set axis maxima to match endstop location
                                          
                                          ; Endstops
                                          M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                	; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                                          M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                	; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                                          ;M574 Z1 S0 P"zstop"                               	; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                          
                                          ; Z-Probe
                                          M950 S7 C"!exp.heater7"                            	; create servo pin 7 for BLTouch
                                          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3.5 F300 T12000              ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                          G31 P500 X0 Y21 Z1.41                              	; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                          M557 X10:410 Y21:400 S49                           	; define mesh grid
                                          
                                          ; Heaters
                                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138     			; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                              			; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                          M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B1           			; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                          M140 H0                                            			; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M143 H0 S130                                       			; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
                                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp old settings:B4138
                                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               			; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                          M307 H1 A517.3 C213.3 D11.1 S1.00 V24 B0           			; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                          M143 H1 S300                                       			; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                                          M308 S2 P"e1_temp" Y"thermistor" T10000 B3950 A"Chamber"	; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                                          M308 S10 Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp"		   					; create virtual temp sensor 10
                                          M308 S11 Y"drivers" A"drivers"			   					; create virtual temp sensor 11
                                          M308 S12 Y"drivers-duex" A"drivers-duex"	   				; create virtual temp sensor 12
                                          
                                          ; Fans
                                          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q250                               			; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"PART FAN"                         			; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q250                               			; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P1 H1 T45 S1 C"EXTRUDER FAN"                  			; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                          M950 F2 C"fan2" Q250				   						; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P2 H10:11:12 T45:65 L0.4 X1.0 C"COMPARTMENT FAN"     	; set fan 2 value. starts to turn on when the MCU temperature (virtual heater 10) reaches 45C and reaches full speed when the MCU temperature reaches 65C or if any TMC2660 drivers (virtual heaters 11 and 12) report that they are over-temperature
                                          M950 F8 C"duex.fan8" Q250			   						; create pin 8 on pin fan8 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P8 H10:11:12 T40:65 L1.0 C"STEPPER FAN"	   			; set fan 8 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                          M950 F9 C"duex.fan7" Q250			   						; create pin 9 on pin fan7 and set its frequency
                                          M106 P9 S0 H-1 C"AIR FILTRATION"		   					; set fan 9 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                          
                                          ; Free up Fan pin
                                          M950 F3 C"nil" 					   					; disable fan 3 and free up the associated pin
                                          M950 F4 C"nil" 					   					; disable fan 4 and free up the associated pin
                                          M950 F5 C"nil" 					   					; disable fan 5 and free up the associated pin
                                          M950 F6 C"nil" 					   					; disable fan 6 and free up the associated pin
                                          
                                          ; Tools
                                          M563 P0 S"E3D_Extruder_0" D0 H1 F0                 	; define tool 0
                                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    	; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                          G10 P0 R0 S0                                       	; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                          
                                          ; Custom settings
                                          
                                          ; Filament sensing
                                          M591 D0 P1 C"e0_stop" S1
                                          
                                          ; Firmware retraction
                                          M207 P0 S0.3 R0 F3600 T3600 Z0	                   	; [ Snnn positive length to retract, in mm ]   // std M207 S2.5 R0 F6500 T4500 Z0
                                          						   							; [ Rnnn positive or negative additional length to un-retract, in mm ]
                                                                                             	; [ Fnnn retraction feedrate, in mm/min ]
                                          						   							; [ Tnnn feedrate for un-retraction if different from retraction, mm/min ]
                                          						   							; [ Znnn additional zlift/hop ]
                                          
                                          ; Linear advance
                                          M572 D0 S0.13					   					; Linear Advance
                                          ;M592 D0 A0.01 B0.0005			   					; nonlinear extrusion
                                          
                                          ; RGB leds - White
                                          ;M950 P3 C"duex.fan3" Q250		   					; create pin 3 on pin fan3 and set its frequency
                                          ;M106 P3 S255 					   					; not used for the moment
                                          M950 P4 C"duex.fan4"			   					; create pin 24 on pin fan4 and set its frequency
                                          M42 P4 S255 					   					; G-
                                          M950 P5 C"duex.fan5"			   					; create pin 25 on pin fan5 and set its frequency
                                          M42 P5 S255 					   					; R-
                                          M950 P6 C"duex.fan6"			   					; create pin 26 on pin fan6 and set its frequency
                                          M42 P6 S255 					   					; B-
                                          
                                          
                                          ; Miscellaneous
                                          M575 P1 S1 B57600                                  	; enable support for PanelDue
                                          M911 S23 R24 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" 	; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                                          ;M581						   						; Set Z-Probe Offset (Marlin Compatibility)
                                          
                                          M501
                                          M500
                                          
                                          

                                          and I also got the wiring diagram for the vivedino custom board:
                                          wiring diagram.pdf

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