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    • weputundefined
      weput @A Former User
      last edited by

      @bearer said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

      it look fine.... but fan2 still doesn't move.

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        A Former User @weput
        last edited by

        @weput said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

        it look fine

        i'd beg to differ, looks like a tiny hole in it, and given the other symptoms odds are it has failed, just less spectacularly.

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        • weputundefined
          weput
          last edited by weput

          well...

          maybe is time to think on a newer duet?

          fan1 had the heatsink fan on.. thermostatically controlled. Maybe that's why i didnt blew.

          fan2 had nothing on it.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by dc42

            Please clarify: does just fan 1 work, or do no fans work (which is what you said in your original post)?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • weputundefined
              weput @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42 said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

              does

              FAN1 works. (currently set as tool 0 fan.)
              FAN2 doesn't.
              FAN0 is blown.

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              • weputundefined
                weput
                last edited by

                i just realized i wrote mosfed instead of mosfet.

                (facepalm)

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  OK, so you have 2 failed mosfets.

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                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • weputundefined
                    weput
                    last edited by

                    FYI guys...

                    i managed to make fan2 work.. but somehow fan0 aint doing it...

                    also, when i was about to solder the self resetting fuse (vssa), after removing the soldered wire for the temporary pot... i checked continuity and it had continuity... so the old fuse was working.

                    yeah... very strange.

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                      A Former User @weput
                      last edited by

                      @weput said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                      so the old fuse was working

                      i think i've seen dc42 suggest waitng a day or two to see if the self resetting fuse recovers - but i though you had trouble with the fans, not the VSSA fuse that is for the thermistor ground connection?

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                      • weputundefined
                        weput
                        last edited by

                        trouble with both.

                        i received the package (finally) with the spare parts.

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                        • weputundefined
                          weput
                          last edited by

                          my board is hardware version 1, so this is not a self reset fuse...

                          on the fan1 blown transistor,.. it seems i fucked up the board when cleaning/removing the old part.

                          😞
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                            A Former User @weput
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                            @weput said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                            it seems i f***ed up the board when cleaning/removing the old part.

                            these things happen with too much heat, the copper becomes delaminated from the substrate.

                            not the end of the world, we have all the files we need to find a workaround, the missing pad is a ground connection, so you could solder in the mosfet, and run a wire from the leg with no pad to any other ground pin

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                            (edit: fixed silkscreen on top of screenshot)

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                            • weputundefined
                              weput
                              last edited by

                              thanks m8.

                              I was looking at the old pictures and notice the cooper was conected to the pin path... so i tried to add more thin until it made contact..

                              not sure if it worked... im connecting the board now.

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                                A Former User @weput
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                                @weput said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                                not sure if it worked

                                if not you can just add a short jumper wire to another ground pin (suitably sized for the current the fan needs)

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                                • weputundefined
                                  weput
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                                  @bearer said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                                  just

                                  it worked.

                                  🙂

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                                  • weputundefined
                                    weput
                                    last edited by

                                    honestly, i dont know how i fucked up the connector that bad... i just placed the soldering iron and used the suction thing ... added flux and repeat.

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                                      A Former User @weput
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @weput said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                                      i dont know how

                                      its a tiny pad and trace so it heat up quickly, and has very little surface area for the adhesive that weakens at high temperatures so care needs to be taken when working on such pads. (the fault current could also weaken the trace before you started working on it)

                                      pre heating the board helps a lot as you need less time to melt the solder and less risk of pulling a pad, but its fixed now and thats what matters in the end 👍

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                                      • weputundefined
                                        weput
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                                        @bearer said in i think fan0 mosfed died.:

                                        pre heating the board helps a lot as you need less time to melt the solder and less risk of pulling a pad, but its fixed now and thats what matters in the end

                                        yeah.

                                        this board was a gift from a good friend... there is some sort of added value there...

                                        plus, is a good feeling this flashbacks of soldering thing... you see, i have a degree in electrical engineering; but since i moved to management i didnt touched my soldering iron in 15 years.

                                        had to buy a new one because the old weller broke off when i tried to change the tip.

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