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    • PayTorundefined
      PayTor
      last edited by

      I was commanding a lot of numbers and was confused what was going on. I wrote 50 here as an example because I thought there was something wrong with my setup and the number doesn't actually matter. Anyway, thanks for the replies. I think I need to figure out a workaround for what I want to do.

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      • pcsentinelundefined
        pcsentinel
        last edited by

        I'm encountering a similar problem with tool change

        tfree0.g
        G10
        G91
        G1 F5000 Z2
        G90
        M106 S255
        M116

        tfree1.g
        G10
        G91
        G1 F5000 Z2
        G90
        M106 S255
        M116

        tpost0.g
        M116

        tpost1.g
        M116

        it doesn't wait fro temp stabilisation, it just goes straight through, i.e. the print doesn't wait on the tool change to sort its temp before restarting

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          What active and standby temperatures have you set in your G10 commands?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • pcsentinelundefined
            pcsentinel
            last edited by

            Active for both is 190 Standby for both is 170

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            • pcsentinelundefined
              pcsentinel
              last edited by

              Hi, any ideas on this as I want to use for my dual extrusion work?

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                My dual extrusion machine is down to single extrusion at present, but I'll try to get the second extruder working again and test it over the weekend.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • pcsentinelundefined
                  pcsentinel
                  last edited by

                  Brilliant, thanks

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                  • pcsentinelundefined
                    pcsentinel
                    last edited by

                    Hi DC, any update as want to try and move to tool macros but need this to work.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      I'm sorry, I re-installed my send extruder but I didn't get any further than that.

                      Please can you confirm exactly what problem you are getting on a tool change.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                      • pcsentinelundefined
                        pcsentinel
                        last edited by

                        Hi, yes it may be my interpretation of M116, but I thought that "wait for temperatures to stabilise would mean that on a dual extruder system where you set both extruders to have an active temp of 190 and a standby temp of 170 the firmware would pause during the extruder change for the standby tool to reach 170 and the active to reach 190.

                        So in my macros (above) issue M116 on tfre would wait for the currently active but soon to be inactive tool to reach 170, then another M116 in the tpre or tpost would wait for the active tool to reach 190 before restarting the print. This is not happening, so although the tools swap, the original tool is still cooling and the new tool starts to print at 170 and the temperature rises to 190.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          Yes, M116 with no parameters should work like that. I'll check it out. However, tfree#.g is called just before the tool is deselected, so the M116 command in your tfree#.g files won't do anything because the old tool is still active at that point.

                          I normally recommend just M116 P0 in the tpost0.g file and M116 P1 in the tpost1.g file. That way, it waits for the new tool to heat to active temperature, but doesn't wait for the old one to cool down - which takes longer and isn't necessary on most printers. But M116 with no parameters in tpost#.g should work if you want to wait for cool down as well.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • pcsentinelundefined
                            pcsentinel
                            last edited by

                            So just to verify, if I add
                            M116 P1
                            M116 P0

                            to tpost0

                            and

                            M116 P0
                            M116 P1

                            to tpost1

                            it should wait for the previous extruder to cool to standby and then wait for the new to heat to active before proceeding?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Yes, that ought to work.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • pcsentinelundefined
                                pcsentinel
                                last edited by

                                Hi DC, tested it from the Machine Control, and sorry to say it doesn't appear to be working, i.e. the 2nd extruder starts to heat at the same time as the first extruder is cooling rather than waiting for the first extruder to cool down first, it does appear like there may be a bug in the code here.

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  I have just tested M116 on my dual nozzle machine, and it works as expected. However, I did find a peculiarity. If I send a G10 command to change the active and/or standby temperatures of a tool other than the one that is selected, the new temperatures get stored somewhere, but they are not actioned or displayed in DWC. They only get used and shown in DWC when you select that tool. Would this explain the problem you are having?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • pcsentinelundefined
                                    pcsentinel
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi DC, just retested, cleaned everything out of tool macros apart from

                                    M116 P1
                                    M116 P0
                                    in tpost0
                                    and
                                    M116 P0
                                    M116 P1
                                    in tpost1

                                    set active temp to 190 and passive temp to 140 for both.

                                    wait till tool 0 at 190 and tool 1 at 140

                                    in console issue a T1 command followed by a G1 X100 Y100, the system doesn't wait it just makes T1 active and moves the bed straight away, rather than my expectation which is that it would wait for T0 to reach 140, T1 to reach 190, then move the bed.

                                    Also re the oddity with G10, that is also reflected in the web control, i.e. you can select a temp for T1, but it doesn't get applied until you click Tool1 making it active. This also means that the turn all off function doesn't work as expected, so if you set active and standby temps for both tools as above and click Control All, Turn Everything Off, The Bed is turned off, the active tool is turned of but the inactive tool is left at standby.

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                                    • pcsentinelundefined
                                      pcsentinel
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi DC, any update on this?

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi pcsentinal,

                                        This seems really strange to me. I tested M116 with no parameters and it worked perfectly for me. OTOH the oddity about G10 is reproduced and on my list to look at. Unfortunately it will be a few days before I can look at this again - you can blame the rampant success of the Duet WiFi/Duet Ethernet leading to more support requests and OEM special requirements, and the peculiar tax year end date of 5 April in the UK. So feel free to remind me around the middle of next week. Sorry for the delay! - David

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • pcsentinelundefined
                                          pcsentinel
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi DC will do thanks.

                                          Really good to here about the success though, fantastic.

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                                          • pcsentinelundefined
                                            pcsentinel
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi DC, you asked me to remind you about this.

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