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    • benjamin.forestundefined
      benjamin.forest
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      Yes, but I didn't found the way direction is actually calculated

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @benjamin.forest
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        @benjamin-forest I fear I cannot help you much, after I understood your problem. But maybe someone other can help you now, knowing the information from our discussion.

        If I have an idea, I'll tell you. Until then: good luck!!

        Best would be to have a configuration parameter for linear Delta for your case, handling the algorithm accordingly.

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        • benjamin.forestundefined
          benjamin.forest
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          Thank you very much for taking the time to understand my problem, it's always a good thing to explain things, and helps my self understanding of what I've done !

          All the best,
          and until my next post 😉

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          • JoergS5undefined
            JoergS5 @benjamin.forest
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            @benjamin-forest good luck, see you!

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @benjamin.forest
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              @benjamin-forest I had a new idea:

              if you reverse the three steppers (M569 P0 S1 => S0, and S0 to S1), it should print like expected, but probably mirrored in xy direction.

              The inversion of xy could be solved by changing the stepper order probably, like discussed in
              https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,636057#:~:text=The mirrored printing normally means,Z tower is back centre.

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              • benjamin.forestundefined
                benjamin.forest
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                Thanks, that's a good Idea. I made this by error when I started trying. The problem is that if it works well for Z, when moving along X/Y the model is no longer valid, since motors are moving in the wrong direction. This lead to the motion being parabolic and is not usable ... Unless maybe I change my model accordingly ? I'll investigate if no other solution is possible.

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @benjamin.forest
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                  @benjamin-forest if you find the mathematic formulae, it could be better to add a new kinematic, because the delta has several code in the firmware, so to overlook one is a big probability. If you install a new kinematic, there is no such danger and you have full control over the movement. I would not inherit from lineardelta, but from kinematic then.
                  You could start with the delta code using a new kinematic, to be sure there is no specific code in Move etc.

                  When I developed the robotic kinematic, I installed the forward and inverse kinematic in windows with mingw and calculated the cartesian coordinate from iterated stepper positions and then back inverse, then comparing, with millions of iterations. This could be a method for you too to validate the code.

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                  • benjamin.forestundefined
                    benjamin.forest
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                    Sure, I'll be thinking about it. I remember you were working on some test as well, did you publish something about it ?

                    All the best,

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @benjamin.forest
                      last edited by JoergS5

                      @benjamin-forest no, and the code is different for you, you would have not much value.

                      It's simply setting the parameters, iterating over them with different values and calling forward and reverse kinematics, then adding up the statistics.

                      I iterated the arm lengths, the different working modes and the stepper angles. In your case I would start iterating only over the stepper positions.

                      I created a class for me and took only the forward and inverse kinematics methods into it, so I don't need to solve all the other references. The kinematics methods are isolated very well.

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                      • benjamin.forestundefined
                        benjamin.forest
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                        Thanks, I'll think about it.

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