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    Large granite bed PID heater tuning (Beta tuning algorithm)

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    • jaskoundefined
      jasko
      last edited by Phaedrux

      Hello,

      I am making large 3D printer with granite buildplate, dimensions of plate is 1400x900x20 and I am using 4 x 1000W 240V silicone heaters.
      Duet 3 board with latest beta firmware.

      When I try to do tuning it takes lot of time (hours) to cool of, and if I dont do the tuning procedure I get error that temperature is not rising fast enough. I tried lower temperatures with previus firmware. Currently I have set up tuning to 35C and it is runing for over an hour.

      Is there a way aside of tuning to remove this error?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Just to confirm, you are using RRF3.2beta4?

        Have you seen that there is a new tuning algorithm in use?

        https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/19761/new-heater-tuning-algorithm

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        • theruttmeisterundefined
          theruttmeister
          last edited by

          Given the huge thermal mass, PID is probably a waste of time. Have you tried just using bang-bang?

          Isolate, substitute, verify.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            DC42 is wondering i you'd try running m303 tuning using 3.2beta4.1. It may be slow, but with luck not as slow as previous tuning algorithms.

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            • jaskoundefined
              jasko
              last edited by

              Thanks everyone. Time of cooling was long after 4 hours it was done. But now i get error that i have too much power should I do same with lower power?

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              • jaskoundefined
                jasko @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux Yes I used this one. It took 4 hours to complete but it was successful.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The warning about an overpowered heater is just letting you know that you should take precautions like a thermal fuse to cut power. Reducing PWM does not help in a out of control runaway heating scenario.

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                  • jaskoundefined
                    jasko @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux Alright, thanks.

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