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    • kroybalundefined
      kroybal
      last edited by kroybal

      I have recently swapped out two Toolboard 1LCs, and my tool distribution board for an EXP3HC board. So far it has solved issues with my x-axes losing steps and resulting in monumental layer shifts. However, upon installing the new board connectivity through the CAN cable has been fleeting. I have followed both the EXP3HC documentation and the CAN basics thread.

      I began with installing and wiring (duh) followed with uploading the latest firmware to the DWC. I set all of my DIP switches to off and restarted the my machine by switching the power on and off. The diag LED did not power on whatsoever, upon pressing the reset key and restarting power dozens of times the light finally sync'd with the mainboard and installed the firmware successfully which was verified with M115 B126 command. I then set my CAN address to 15 by toggling all the DIP switches to on and pressed the reset button on the expansion board. This resulted in the diag LED to shut out completely losing its connection to the mainboard.

      I repeated the process of toggling the DIP switches again dozens of times, it finally worked again with them all set to off. I addressed 15 again pressed the reset button and let it sit for probably 10 minutes and it finally kicked on and started working. My endstops and motors worked wonderfully and I got a successful test print off.

      Heres where the problem begins again. I had to power down to close the box off and connect filament monitoring etc... Upon turning the board on again all progress was lost and I had to go through another 30 minute session of powering on and off and toggling DIP switches till it caught signal.

      What detail am I missing? My cable is fine, it is an RJ11 CAN cable that was manufactured and not cut or crimped by myself (obtained with the Duet's tool distribution board). I feel like this board oughta connect and sync up with the mainboard like lightning, I also gotta close the black box and will lose access to flipping DIP switches when I do so.

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      • kroybalundefined
        kroybal
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        My config.g

        ; Axis Definitions====>>>>>
        ; X = Left (on X-axis) Extruder U = Right (on X-axis) Extruder /// Y = Y-Axis /// Z = Z-Axis  
        
        ; ======={ Drives }========================================	
        ; 0.x corresponds to main board /// 20.x corresponds to tooloard-1 /// 21.x corresponds to toolboard-2
        ; X
        M569 P15.0 S1                                   ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
        M569 P15.1 S1									; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
        ; Y
        M569 P0.2 S0                                    ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
        M569 P0.3 S1									; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards 
        ; Z
        M569 P0.4 S0                                    ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
        M569 P0.5 S0									; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
        
        ; ======={ Extruders }=====================================
        M569 P0.0 S1                                    ; physical drive 1.0 goes backwards
        M569 P0.1 S1                                    ; physical drive 2.0 goes backwards
        M584 X15.0 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U15.1 E0.0:0.1     ; set drive mapping
        
        ; ======={ Movement }======================================
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16:16 								; configure microstepping with interpolation ... 1/16 of a step for each motor
        M92 X80.872 Y80.306 Z1609.513 U80.872 E483.57:480.23		; Re-calibrated 1/4/2021
        M566 X12 Y12 Z12 U12 E10:10 P0									; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) [JERK CONTROL]
        M203 X8000.00 Y8000.00 Z600.00 U8000.00 E8000:00:8000.00	; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 U500.00  		 				; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E1040:1040 U1500 I30					; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in percent
        M84 S20                                         			; Set idle timeout
        
        ; ======={ Axis Limits }===================================
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 S1                                    		 ; set axis minima
        ;M208 X579 Y437 Z640 U582.165 S0                      	     ; set axis maxima
        M208 X579 Y437 Z640 U582.25 S0                      	     ; set axis maxima //// Update U maximum portionately (<-- subract to move left
        
        ; ======={ Endstops }======================================
        M574 X1 S1 P"!15.io0.in"							;X-Min Homes Left carriage as Endstop index 0
        M574 Y1 S1 P"!io5.in"								;Y-Max Homes Y as endstop index 1
        M574 Z1 S1 P"!io3.in+!io4.in"						;Z-Min Homes Z (bed) as endstop index 2
        M574 U2 S1 P"!15.io1.in"							;U-Max Homes Right carriage as Endstop index 3
        
        ; ======={ Z-Probe }=======================================
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000                           ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        M557 X15:439 Y15:439 S20                        ; define mesh grid
        ;M558 P2 H5 F120 T6000							; enable modulated IR Z probe sensor, dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        
        ; ======={ Heaters }=======================================
        ; Bed>>>
        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 A"Bed"		; configure sensor 0 as thermocouple temp0 pin
        M950 H0 C"out1" T0                              		; create bed heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 A66.6 C305.2 D0.3 V24.3 B0              		; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0                                         		; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S150                                    		; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
        
        ; Left nozzle>>>
        M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" Y"rtdmax31865" A"PT100 (L)"  ; configure sensor 1 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs0
        M950 H1 C"out0" T1                              ; create nozzle heater output on 1.out0 and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 A686.8 C198.5 D7.3 S1.00 V24.3 B0		;
        M143 H1 S510									; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 510C
        
        ; Right nozzle>>>
        M308 S2 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtdmax31865" A"PT100 (R)"  ; configure sensor 2 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs1
        M950 H2 C"out3" T2                              ; create nozzle heater output on 2.out0 and map it to sensor 2
        M307 H2 A863.7 C280.2 D6.1 S1.00 V24.3 B0
        M143 H2 S510									; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 510C
        
        ; Chamber>>>
        M308 S3 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 A"Chamber" ; configure sensor 1 as thermocouple via temp1 pin
        M950 H3 C"out2" T3                              		; create chamber heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 1
        ; ================Summer tuned
        ;M307 H3 A14.2 C66.7 D18.7 V24.3 B0                      ; Summer tuned chamber heater
        ; ================Winter tuned
        M307 H3 A17.8 C79.1 D30.8 V24.3 B0						; winter tuned chamber heater
        M141 H3                                         		; map chamber to heater 1
        M570 H3 S65
        
        ; ======={ Fans }==========================================
        M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                            ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S1 H-1                                  ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"out7" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin out7 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H-1                                 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        
        ; ======={ Tools}==========================================
        ;	Offsetting Tips:
        ;			X: to offset the X and push the layer "west" add to the current value. To push the layer "east" subtract.*** (not verified)
        ;				-When offsetting the X for the right tool (U) you must also add/subtract the same value from the axis maximum located above.
        ;			Y: to offset the Y and push the layer "north" add to the current value. To push the layer "south" subtract. (verified)
        
        
        M563 P0 S"LEFT" D0 H1 							; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X-80 Y-10 Z-0.1 U-80	                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0
        
        M563 P1 S"RIGHT" D1 X3 H2			              ; define tool 1 --- Map to U to X-Axis
        G10 P1 X502.25 Y-10.57 Z-0.1 U-80                 ; BASELINE set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0
        ;offsets were Y-11.92 X502.20 Dec 30 morning
        
        M563 P2 S"Chamber" H3							; added for Simplify3d compatibility
        G10 P2 R0 S0
        
        ; ========{ Filament Monitoring }==========================
        ;M591 D0.0 P5 C"io1.in" R60:120 E3.0 S1			;Driver 0.0, laser sensor, pinname, Tol. 10-120%, 5.0mm detection, 0=disabled 1=enabled ===== RIGHT EXTRUDER
        ;M591 D0.1 P5 C"io2.in" R1:120 E5.0 S0			;Driver 0.1, laser sensor, pinname, Tol. 10-120%, 5.0mm detection, 0=disabled 1=enabled ===== LEFT EXTRUDER
        
        M591 D0 P5 C"io1.in" R5:400 E5.0 S1
        M591 D1 P5 C"io2.in" R5:400 E5.0 S1
        
        ; ========={ Miscellaneous }===============================
        M575 P1 S1 B57600                               ; enable support for PanelDue
        
        
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        • pkosundefined
          pkos
          last edited by

          Can you post diag (m122) from the main and exp board? I wonder if you encountered what I experienced with that combi.

          Voron 2.4 (Duet 3 6HC + 3HC standalone), Voron SW (Duet 3 mini 5+ standalone), Voron Trident (Duet 3 mini 5+ standalone), Voron 0.1

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @kroybal
            last edited by

            @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

            I have recently swapped out two Toolboard 1LCs, and my tool distribution board for an EXP3HC board. So far it has solved issues with my x-axes losing steps and resulting in monumental layer shifts.

            Have you see this thread https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/20713/duet3-6ch-3ch-expansion-board-missing-steps/151?_=1611221812299 ? In short, we managed to reproduce this type of issue, identified the causes, and fixed them in the unofficial 3.3 beta release that we made available at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wme9k0z86sytg33/AAAT6wrHp2eeJHK-dYoW1Um4a?dl=0.

            @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

            The diag LED did not power on whatsoever, upon pressing the reset key and restarting power dozens of times the light finally sync'd with the mainboard and installed the firmware successfully which was verified with M115 B126 command.

            I have been investigating another instance of this problem today, and identified the cause (crystal oscillator taking a long time to start up, so that the frequency measuring code in the 3.2 release gives up). I have updated the EXP3HC firmware beta at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wme9k0z86sytg33/AAAT6wrHp2eeJHK-dYoW1Um4a?dl=0. This update resolves the problem on the board that I was testing today.

            Please note, the 3.3beta tool and expansion board firmware will only sync with 3.3beta main board firmware. However, even without connecting a main board running 3.3beta firmware, if the fix in the 3.3beta EXP3HC firmware works on your board then the LED on the 3HC board should start flashing as soon as you apply power.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • kroybalundefined
              kroybal @pkos
              last edited by

              @pkos

              sure thing

              My Mainboard

              M122 B0
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)
              Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKD8-3S06K-9B2GD
              Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (38 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 149788
              Dynamic ram: 94800 of which 40 recycled
              Never used RAM 114204, free system stack 120 words
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,171) ETHERNET(blocked,109) HEAT(blocked,271) CanReceiv(blocked,848) CanSender(blocked,344) CanClock(blocked,352) TMC(blocked,19) MAIN(running,1091) IDLE(ready,19)
              Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:50:11 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2021-01-26 12:16, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 114244, slot 0
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
              Error status: 0x00
              Aux0 errors 0,0,0
              Aux1 errors 0,0,0
              MCU temperature: min 44.3, current 44.4, max 44.5
              Supply voltage: min 24.3, current 24.3, max 24.4, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              12V rail voltage: min 11.0, current 12.4, max 12.8, under voltage events: 0
              Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 18998, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Driver 1: position 5384, standstill, reads 18998, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Driver 2: position 29174, standstill, reads 18998, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: position 47088, standstill, reads 18999, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 18998, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 18998, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2021-01-26 13:07:01
              Slowest loop: 7.73ms; fastest: 0.06ms
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 2.2ms, write time 1.1ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              DMs created 125, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves 19726, completed moves 19726, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = 3 -1 -1 -1
              Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              Heater 2 is on, I-accum = 0.2
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP is ready with "M122 B0" in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              SBC is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              SBC is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 24.77ms; fastest: 0.02ms
              Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
              HTTP sessions: 2 of 8

              • Ethernet -
                State: active
                Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
                === Filament sensors ===
                Extruder 0: pos 3.32, errs: frame 1 parity 0 ovrun 8 pol 0 ovdue

              My Expansion board

              M122 B15
              Diagnostics for board 15:
              Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.2 (2021-01-05)
              Bootloader ID: not available
              Never used RAM 154796, free system stack 154 words
              HEAT 83 CanAsync 94 CanRecv 78 TMC 30 MAIN 323 AIN 257
              Last reset 00:50:15 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset data not available
              Driver 0: position -36704, 80.9 steps/mm, standstill, reads 53420, writes 22 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/121
              Driver 1: position 57777, 80.9 steps/mm, standstill, reads 53422, writes 22 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/130
              Driver 2: position 0, 80.0 steps/mm, standstill, reads 53437, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
              Moves scheduled 18712, completed 18712, in progress 0, hiccups 0
              No step interrupt scheduled
              VIN: 24.4V, V12: 12.2V
              MCU temperature: min 43.6C, current 43.9C, max 44.1C
              Ticks since heat task active 240, ADC conversions started 3015982, completed 3015980, timed out 0
              Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 243 ticks ago, loop time 0
              CAN messages queued 95, send timeouts 0, received 45924, lost 0, free buffers 36

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              • kroybalundefined
                kroybal @dc42
                last edited by

                @dc42 good to hear. I will read that thread after lunch.

                @dc42 said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                The diag LED did not power on whatsoever, upon pressing the reset key and restarting power dozens of times the light finally sync'd with the mainboard and installed the firmware successfully which was verified with M115 B126 command.

                I have been investigating another instance of this problem today, and identified the cause (crystal oscillator taking a long time to start up, so that the frequency measuring code in the 3.2 release gives up). I have updated the EXP3HC firmware beta at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wme9k0z86sytg33/AAAT6wrHp2eeJHK-dYoW1Um4a?dl=0. This update resolves the problem on the board that I was testing today.

                Please note, the 3.3beta tool and expansion board firmware will only sync with 3.3beta main board firmware. However, even without connecting a main board running 3.3beta firmware, if the fix in the 3.3beta EXP3HC firmware works on your board then the LED on the 3HC board should start flashing as soon as you apply power.

                You're recommending updating all boards to the 3.3beta?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @kroybal
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                  @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                  @dc42 good to hear. I will read that thread after lunch.

                  @dc42 said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                  @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                  The diag LED did not power on whatsoever, upon pressing the reset key and restarting power dozens of times the light finally sync'd with the mainboard and installed the firmware successfully which was verified with M115 B126 command.

                  I have been investigating another instance of this problem today, and identified the cause (crystal oscillator taking a long time to start up, so that the frequency measuring code in the 3.2 release gives up). I have updated the EXP3HC firmware beta at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wme9k0z86sytg33/AAAT6wrHp2eeJHK-dYoW1Um4a?dl=0. This update resolves the problem on the board that I was testing today.

                  Please note, the 3.3beta tool and expansion board firmware will only sync with 3.3beta main board firmware. However, even without connecting a main board running 3.3beta firmware, if the fix in the 3.3beta EXP3HC firmware works on your board then the LED on the 3HC board should start flashing as soon as you apply power.

                  You're recommending updating all boards to the 3.3beta?

                  Start by just updating just the 3HC board, and test whether after the update the LED on that board always starts flashing as soon as you apply power (but don't expect it to sync with the main board). If it does, upgrade the other boards too.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • kroybalundefined
                    kroybal @dc42
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                    @dc42 said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                    Start by just updating just the 3HC board, and test whether after the update the LED on that board always starts flashing as soon as you apply power (but don't expect it to sync with the main board). If it does, upgrade the other boards too.

                    So upon updating EXP3HC to 3.3beta and keeping the MB6HC at 3.2 and resetting the power resulted in the LED not blinking upon startup. Should I move forward with running a full 3.3beta?

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                    • kroybalundefined
                      kroybal
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                      Running 3.3beta on the EXP3HC and 3.2 on the MB6HC resulted in warning message appearing periodically in the console upon a G28 homing command. Both my x-axis motors and their endstops are connected to the 3HC board.

                      1/26/2021, 1:47:36 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 33

                      1/26/2021, 1:47:09 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 31

                      Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 31

                      1/26/2021, 1:46:54 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 28

                      1/26/2021, 1:46:47 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 26

                      Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 26

                      1/26/2021, 1:46:32 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 23

                      1/26/2021, 1:46:26 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 21

                      Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 21

                      1/26/2021, 1:46:11 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 18

                      1/26/2021, 1:45:47 PM Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 15

                      Warning: Discarded msg src=15 typ=4510 RID=4095 exp 15

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Those messages are expected because of differences in the CAN protocol between 3.2 and 3.3.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • kroybalundefined
                          kroybal @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 Understood, I ended up updating to the 3.3beta firmware on both boards. It still requires a bit of patience to let the boards sync up.

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                          • jrocklandundefined
                            jrockland @kroybal
                            last edited by

                            @kroybal hmm but why 15 ? If you have just a 6hc+3hc shouldnt it be address to 1 ? Or im missing something here

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @kroybal
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                              @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                              @dc42 Understood, I ended up updating to the 3.3beta firmware on both boards. It still requires a bit of patience to let the boards sync up.

                              How long does it take? If the fix is working then the LED on the expansion board should start flashing as soon as it received power (as evidenced by the other LEDs on the board), but may take about 2 seconds before it settles down to the slow flash indicating CAN sync. If the other LEDs on the expansion board light up immediately power is applied but the status LED still does not flash until many seconds later, then I need to revisit the fix.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • kroybalundefined
                                kroybal @dc42
                                last edited by kroybal

                                @dc42 Following a full update to 3.3beta seemed to be working at this point. It doesn't light up immediately but it flashes about two seconds later (w.r.t. the other LEDs) overall takes less than 10 seconds to sync with the MB. I cannot complain!

                                Cheers

                                Edit: I should have bit my tongue, I tried another time and the LED failed to turn on all together following power up. It has been about a minute and no light.

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                                • kroybalundefined
                                  kroybal @jrockland
                                  last edited by kroybal

                                  @jrockland said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                                  @kroybal hmm but why 15 ? If you have just a 6hc+3hc shouldnt it be address to 1 ? Or im missing something here

                                  Addressing is arbitrary right? I certainly do not have tons of boards and channel 1 is free but I found it easiest to just flip them all to on in one motion instead of trying to be precise with flipping one switch.

                                  Edit: Not totally arbitrary, but no right or wrong answer as long as its logical

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                                  • kroybalundefined
                                    kroybal
                                    last edited by

                                    Very coarse statistics on my setup suggest about a 1/15 shot at lighting up upon startup, and 2 minutes light-up-and-sync time in the case of a startup failure.

                                    Does this have to do with the crystal oscillators not powering up still or simply waiting for the signal from the boards to be in phase?

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                                    • jrocklandundefined
                                      jrockland @kroybal
                                      last edited by

                                      @kroybal not a clue, it is why I was asking. I tough I was wrong doing it 1-2-3...

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @kroybal
                                        last edited by

                                        @kroybal said in CAN connectivity: Duet 3 MB6HC to EXP3HC:

                                        @dc42 Following a full update to 3.3beta seemed to be working at this point. It doesn't light up immediately but it flashes about two seconds later (w.r.t. the other LEDs) overall takes less than 10 seconds to sync with the MB. I cannot complain!

                                        Cheers

                                        Edit: I should have bit my tongue, I tried another time and the LED failed to turn on all together following power up. It has been about a minute and no light.

                                        Thanks for the update. I'll continue working on this and provide another update tomorrow.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • dc42undefined
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                                          @kroybal, I've put an updated 3.3beta Duet3Firmware-EXP3HC.bin file at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wme9k0z86sytg33/AAAT6wrHp2eeJHK-dYoW1Um4a?dl=0. Please install it and see whether the delay from power up to when the LED on the 3HC starts flashing is eliminated.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                            @dc42 I have installed the updated EXP3HC and it seems like the problem is still persisting.

                                            Here is my M122 command for both boards

                                            1/28/2021, 10:01:52 AM === Diagnostics ===

                                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.3beta running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)

                                            Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6JKD8-3S06K-9B2GD

                                            Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (13 max)

                                            === RTOS ===

                                            Static ram: 149784

                                            Dynamic ram: 92536 of which 0 recycled

                                            Never used RAM 108352, free system stack 200 words

                                            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,254) ETHERNET(blocked,111) HEAT(blocked,305) CanReceiv(blocked,909) CanSender(blocked,365) CanClock(blocked,334) TMC(blocked,52) MAIN(running,1120) IDLE(ready,20)

                                            Owned mutexes: LwipCore(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN)

                                            === Platform ===

                                            Last reset 00:00:13 ago, cause: software

                                            Last software reset at 2021-01-28 09:57, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 108312, slot 2

                                            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a

                                            Error status: 0x00

                                            Aux0 errors 0,0,0

                                            Aux1 errors 0,0,0

                                            MCU temperature: min 38.6, current 40.3, max 40.5

                                            Supply voltage: min 24.3, current 24.3, max 24.4, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

                                            12V rail voltage: min 10.8, current 12.6, max 12.8, under voltage events: 0

                                            Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 10313, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 10313, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Driver 2: position 0, standstill, reads 10313, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 10313, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 10314, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 10314, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0

                                            Date/time: 2021-01-28 10:01:53

                                            Slowest loop: 4.11ms; fastest: 0.05ms

                                            === Storage ===

                                            Free file entries: 10

                                            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec

                                            SD card longest read time 2.3ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0

                                            === Move ===

                                            DMs created 125, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000

                                            === MainDDARing ===

                                            Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

                                            === AuxDDARing ===

                                            Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

                                            === Heat ===

                                            Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = 3 -1 -1 -1

                                            Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0

                                            === GCodes ===

                                            Segments left: 0

                                            Movement lock held by null

                                            HTTP is ready with "M122 B0" in state(s) 0

                                            Telnet is idle in state(s) 0

                                            File is idle in state(s) 0

                                            USB is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Aux is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Trigger is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Queue is idle in state(s) 0

                                            LCD is idle in state(s) 0

                                            SBC is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Daemon is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Autopause is idle in state(s) 0

                                            Code queue is empty.

                                            === Filament sensors ===

                                            Extruder 0: pos 0.45, errs: frame 0 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 0 ovdue 0

                                            Extruder 1: pos 3.66, errs: frame 0 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 0 ovdue 0

                                            === CAN ===

                                            Messages queued 74, send timeouts 0, received 20, lost 0, longest wait 1ms for reply type 6018, peak Tx sync delay 493, free buffers 48 (min 47)

                                            === Network ===

                                            Slowest loop: 6.40ms; fastest: 0.02ms

                                            Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions

                                            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                            • Ethernet -

                                            State: active

                                            Error counts: 0 0 1 0 0

                                            Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0

                                            1/28/2021, 10:02:36 AM M122 B15

                                            Diagnostics for board 15:

                                            Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.3beta (2021-01-28 09:11:08)

                                            Bootloader ID: not available

                                            Never used RAM 155236, free system stack 0 words

                                            Move 160 HEAT 103 CanAsync 72 CanRecv 84 CanClock 74 TMC 64 MAIN 339 AIN 260

                                            Last reset 00:00:13 ago, cause: software

                                            Last software reset data not available

                                            Driver 0: position 0, 80.9 steps/mm, standstill, reads 46408, writes 16 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0, steps req 0 done 0

                                            Driver 1: position 0, 80.9 steps/mm, standstill, reads 46410, writes 16 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0, steps req 0 done 0

                                            Driver 2: position 0, 80.0 steps/mm, standstill, reads 46419, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0, steps req 0 done 0

                                            Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 0, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0

                                            Peak sync jitter 12, peak Rx sync delay 174, resyncs 0, no step interrupt scheduled

                                            VIN: 24.4V, V12: 12.2V

                                            MCU temperature: min 43.6C, current 43.6C, max 43.9C

                                            Ticks since heat task active 90, ADC conversions started 13832, completed 13831, timed out 0

                                            Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 94 ticks ago, loop time 0

                                            CAN messages queued 33, send timeouts 0, received 136, lost 0, free buffers 36, min 36, error reg 110067

                                            dup 0, oos 0, bm 0, wbm 0

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