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    cdthomas9
    last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 06:20

    Rebuilding my Replicator 2X with some upgrades, one of those is switching to Noctua fans for the hot ends. I have a pair of buck converters attached to fan1 and fan2, leaving fan0 empty. fan1 starts as soon as the board powers up, and won't turn off. Not sure whats going on with it, the fans should be set to thermostatic control and turn on as needed.

    Here's my config:

    ; General preferences
    M111 S0 ; Debugging off
    G21 ; Work in millimetres
    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
    M208 X-7 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
    M208 X252 Y153 Z155 S0 ; Set axis maxima (reduced by offset above)
    ; Enable Panel Due Connector
    M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; Enables connector and sets baud rate
    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; X min active high endstop switch
    M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; Y min active high endstop switch
    ;Manual Bed Leveling
    M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F500 T4000 X0 Y0 Z1 ; Set Z probe type/mode 9. H=Dive Height. F=Speed the bed moves
    G31 P25 X-36 Y0 Z2.885 ; Z probe trigger value, offset in relation to nozzle. And trigger height adjustment
    M557 X40:190 Y20:145 S20 ; Define mesh grid
    ;M671 x144:94:191 Y10:160:160 P0.5 ; Manual screw adjustment locations
    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
    M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
    M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
    M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
    M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes backwards
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X88.573186 Y88.573186 Z400 E96.27520187033366 ; Set steps per mm
    M566 X900 Y900 Z300 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X1080000 Y1080000 Z600 E96000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X1000 Y1000 Z100 E2000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X800 Y800 Z400 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
    M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4 ; Set drive assignments
    ; Heaters
    M140 H0
    M143 S260 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 260C
    M308 S0 P"bed_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3974 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
    M308 S1 P"e0_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
    M308 S2 P"e1_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
    M950 H0 C"bed_heat" T0 ; heater 0 uses the bed_heat pin, sensor 0
    M950 H1 C"e0_heat" T1 ; heater 1 uses the e0_heat pin and sensor 1
    M950 H2 C"e1_heat" T2 ; heater 2 uses the e1_heat pin and sensor 2
    M307 H0 A103.7 C787.7 D1.0 S1.00 B0
    ;M307 H0 A38.5 C41.1 D1.4 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Heatedbed - derived from autotune
    M307 H1 A250.2 C139.5 D5.4 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Extruder 1 - derived from autotune
    M307 H2 A387.6 C209.9 D5.9 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Extruder 2 - derived from autotune
    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 4th Heater to free up PWM channel on the Duex board.
    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
    G10 P1 X35 Y-0.8 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
    G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    M207 S1.2 F1200 ; Set 1.2mm retract distance for G10 command
    ; Network
    M550 P"Rep2X-EnStein" ; Set machine name
    M552 S1 ; Enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S1 ; Enable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"fan1" Q500 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency.
    M950 F1 C"fan2" Q500 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency.
    M106 P0 T40:50 H1 ; Set fan 0. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M106 P1 T40:50 H2 ; Set fan 1. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; Define BLTouch probe
    M564 H0 ; Allow Movement while axes are NOT homed
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      Veti @cdthomas9
      last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 06:38

      @cdthomas9 said in Duet2 Wifi fan runs constantly:

      I have a pair of buck converters attached to fan1 and fan2, leaving fan0 empty. fan1 starts as soon as the board powers up, and won't turn off

      can you post a picture of your wiring diagram? the facts that you have more than one suggests that it might not be done right.

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        Veti
        last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 06:39

        @cdthomas9 said in Duet2 Wifi fan runs constantly:

        M106 P0 T40:50 H1 ; Set fan 0. Thermostatic control is turned on

        also this makes no sense. you only want the fan to be on between 40 and 50C ?

        and you have not configured a part cooling fan

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          Phaedrux Moderator @Veti
          last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 07:02

          @Veti said in Duet2 Wifi fan runs constantly:

          T40:50

          I think this would start at 40c and ramp the fan speed up to full at 50c.

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            cdthomas9
            last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 14:32

            Yes, following the documentation it says that T:40:50 makes it proportional.

            I have one buck converter hooked to fan1, so it takes the incoming 24v and outputs 12v to the Noctua fan for heater 1. I have another on fan2 and that's connected to the fan for heater 2. Since I have 2 fans and want them controlled individually I need 2 buck converters.

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 16:57

              You can feed the 12v output of the buck converter into the VFAN pin of the voltage selector jumper block. This will give 12v to all of the fan headers and you can just connect your fans normally to the fan connections.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

              Right now it sounds like you're just powering the fans directly from the buck converter and now switching can take place.

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                cdthomas9
                last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 17:05

                The buck converters get their power from the fan pins on the Duet, so when one of the fans gets triggered it powers up the buck converter and the attached fan. connecting the buck converter to the PSU full time then routing the power into the VFAN pin sounds like a plan, I may go with that. The thing that concerns me is that the fan1 connector is getting 24v full time, like it is an always-on fan connection.

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                  Veti
                  last edited by Veti 27 Jan 2021, 17:06

                  duet switches the fans on the gnd pin. not the power pin.
                  and a buck converter can not handle the pwm frequency switching.

                  for a good picture on wiring. see https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/11147/wiring-diagram-using-12v-fans-on-a-24v-system

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                    cdthomas9
                    last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 17:08

                    Right, I remember that now. I'll have to rewire a bit. But, If I have the converter attached to the fan1 and fan2 pins, why is it on now? there should be no connection to ground on fan1 unless the duet is calling for the fan to be on

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 17:11

                      again can you post a picture of your current wiring. this helps us understand your situation

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                        cdthomas9
                        last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 17:54

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                          Veti
                          last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 18:02

                          yes that wont work as the buck converter will not be able to work with the pwm pulsing

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                            cdthomas9
                            last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 18:14

                            Ah, gotcha. Thanks, I'll rewire it then.

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                              cdthomas9
                              last edited by 29 Jan 2021, 23:32

                              OK, so after rewiring things so that the buck converter is feeding into VFAN, fan1 still runs constantly. I even commented out all of the fan lines in my config.g. Right now I am trying fan0 and fan2, but neither seem to be working. The always on pins and fan1 both get 12v constantly, and fan1 and fan2 don't get anything, even when trying to turn on manually or if I heat up the hot ends.

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 29 Jan 2021, 23:34

                                Post a photo of the current wiring and your current config.g

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                                  cdthomas9
                                  last edited by 29 Jan 2021, 23:43

                                  ; General preferences
                                  M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                                  G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                                  M208 X-7 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                  M208 X252 Y153 Z155 S0 ; Set axis maxima (reduced by offset above)
                                  ; Enable Panel Due Connector
                                  M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; Enables connector and sets baud rate
                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; X min active high endstop switch
                                  M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; Y min active high endstop switch
                                  ;Manual Bed Leveling
                                  M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F500 T4000 X0 Y0 Z1 ; Set Z probe type/mode 9. H=Dive Height. F=Speed the bed moves
                                  G31 P25 X-36 Y0 Z2.885 ; Z probe trigger value, offset in relation to nozzle. And trigger height adjustment
                                  M557 X40:190 Y20:145 S20 ; Define mesh grid
                                  ;M671 x144:94:191 Y10:160:160 P0.5 ; Manual screw adjustment locations
                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                                  M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
                                  M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                  M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                  M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes backwards
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X88.573186 Y88.573186 Z400 E96.27520187033366 ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X900 Y900 Z300 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X1080000 Y1080000 Z600 E96000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z100 E2000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X800 Y800 Z400 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                                  M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4 ; Set drive assignments
                                  ; Heaters
                                  M140 H0
                                  M143 S260 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 260C
                                  M308 S0 P"bed_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3974 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                  M308 S1 P"e0_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M308 S2 P"e1_temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                                  M950 H0 C"bed_heat" T0 ; heater 0 uses the bed_heat pin, sensor 0
                                  M950 H1 C"e0_heat" T1 ; heater 1 uses the e0_heat pin and sensor 1
                                  M950 H2 C"e1_heat" T2 ; heater 2 uses the e1_heat pin and sensor 2
                                  M307 H0 A103.7 C787.7 D1.0 S1.00 B0
                                  ;M307 H0 A38.5 C41.1 D1.4 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Heatedbed - derived from autotune
                                  M307 H1 A250.2 C139.5 D5.4 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Extruder 1 - derived from autotune
                                  M307 H2 A387.6 C209.9 D5.9 V24.4 B0 ; Set PID values for Extruder 2 - derived from autotune
                                  M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 4th Heater to free up PWM channel on the Duex board.
                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                  M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
                                  G10 P1 X34 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
                                  G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                  M207 S1.2 F1200 ; Set 1.2mm retract distance for G10 command
                                  ; Network
                                  M550 P"Rep2X-EnStein" ; Set machine name
                                  M552 S1 ; Enable network
                                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S1 ; Enable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                                  ; Fans
                                  M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency.
                                  M950 F1 C"fan2" Q500 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency.
                                  M106 P0 T40:50 H1 ; Set fan 0. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  M106 P1 T40:50 H2 ; Set fan 1. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; Define BLTouch probe
                                  M564 H0 ; Allow Movement while axes are NOT homed

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                                    cdthomas9
                                    last edited by 29 Jan 2021, 23:44

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by 29 Jan 2021, 23:56

                                      I fear that you may have fried a mosfet or something with the previous wiring setup so that Fan1 is failed in the on position.

                                      Connect a fan to the Fan1 port
                                      Send M950 F1 C"fan1" followed by M106 P1 S1 and M106 P1 S0

                                      is it able to control the fan?

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                                        cdthomas9
                                        last edited by cdthomas9 30 Jan 2021, 01:55

                                        No joy on that, I also tried this for fan2 as well, no control for any fan PWM channel it seems. I haven't had this board long at all either.

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                                          fcwilt @cdthomas9
                                          last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 02:28

                                          @cdthomas9 said in Duet2 Wifi fan runs constantly:

                                          No joy on that, I also tried this for fan2 as well, no control for any fan PWM channel it seems. I haven't had this board long at all either.

                                          Well if you had both convertors connected and applied power you may have fried both fan mosfets.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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