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heater cartridge degraded and "lost power"

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    c310
    last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 05:54

    on my duetwifi i have used 24v 60w heater cartridge. it was easily heating up to 310 degrees, but yesterday it was hardly reaching 280.... i checked cables and re-calibrated with M303.
    No luck 😞

    in my understanding is that heater either works or not. it can not degrade...

    am i right?
    and where else should i check to fix the issue?

    thanks!

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      Veti
      last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 06:14

      measure the resistance of the heater.
      then calculate its power from that.

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 07:21

        Check all connections between the heater and the Duet. Also check the connections between the PSU and the Duet.

        If you did any work on the hot end between the heater working and not working fully, check that there is a gap between the bottom of the heatsink and the top of the heater block.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          deckingman
          last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 07:37

          ,........and check your power supply. M122 will show you the min and max voltage - check that you have 24v when the heater(s) is/are on.

          Ian
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            c310
            last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 08:00

            it is 19 Ohms, that gives 30W... that gives half of what it should be 😞

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              dragonn
              last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 08:27

              This can happen. Actually you are lucky, sometimes can happen that a heater gets a short and just burns out destroying fuses or cables/connectors with it.
              Just replace it.

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                c310 @dragonn
                last edited by c310 2 Mar 2021, 09:05 3 Feb 2021, 09:00

                VIN was between 24.5 and 25.0 volts , all cables and connections were in a good shape..

                finally, i have replaced it...
                and new one works as it should be 🙂

                thank you all for support!

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                  c310 @dc42
                  last edited by 6 Mar 2021, 19:06

                  @dc42 it had happened again 😞 are there any parts on the Duet WiFi board that potentially have degraded?

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 6 Mar 2021, 23:25

                    Would seem strange that any degradation on the duet would get better when replacing the cartridge though, wouldn't it?

                    60W cartridge would be quite powerful. Perhaps the life expectancy is shorter than a regular 30w.

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                      dc42 administrators @c310
                      last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 08:23

                      @c310 said in heater cartridge degraded and "lost power":

                      @dc42 it had happened again 😞 are there any parts on the Duet WiFi board that potentially have degraded?

                      The only things I can think of that might have degraded in a way that reduced output power are the soldering of the heater output connector to the PCB, and the soldering of the main VIN fuse holder to the PCB. If those joints are bad, the problem should be easily visible.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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