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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      @dc42:

      It will only deploy and retract if it is not already deployed. So the behaviour is unchanged if you have M401 near the start of bed.g and M402 near the end.

      OK understood.

      Under what circumstances would you want the probe to be deployed/retracted with each G30/G29 command?

      Thanks for the reply.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • Jackalundefined
        Jackal
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        @fcwilt:

        @dc42:

        It will only deploy and retract if it is not already deployed. So the behaviour is unchanged if you have M401 near the start of bed.g and M402 near the end.

        OK understood.

        Under what circumstances would you want the probe to be deployed/retracted with each G30/G29 command?

        Thanks for the reply.

        Frederick

        I believe it is to avoid the probe not being deployed when executing G30/G29 as a single command
        If you are doing bed compensation with multiple G30, you should use M401 M402

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        • Jackalundefined
          Jackal
          last edited by

          Just installed beta 10, seems to be having a problem when showing the heightmap.
          After calibration, the heightmap overlay appears, but it's empty
          If I choose Show Mesh Grid Heightmap under Auto Delta Calibration the browser won't response and needs to restart.
          Now sure if it's the problem with RRF or DWC 1.17+1.

          edit: it seems to print normally, will look into it later and provide the config and bed files for investigation

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            @Jackal:

            Just installed beta 10, seems to be having a problem when showing the heightmap.
            After calibration, the heightmap overlay appears, but it's empty
            If I choose Show Mesh Grid Heightmap under Auto Delta Calibration the browser won't response and needs to restart.
            Now sure if it's the problem with RRF or DWC 1.17+1.

            edit: it seems to print normally, will look into it later and provide the config and bed files for investigation

            No need to look into it. I forgot to warn chrishamm about the change to the height map file to support different X and Y spacings. We'll have to wait for him to do a DWC 1.17+2 release.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              @Jackal:

              @fcwilt:

              Under what circumstances would you want the probe to be deployed/retracted with each G30/G29 command?

              Thanks for the reply.

              Frederick

              I believe it is to avoid the probe not being deployed when executing G30/G29 as a single command
              If you are doing bed compensation with multiple G30, you should use M401 M402

              That's right. Several people complained that G29 didn't deploy the probe automatically.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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              • Jackalundefined
                Jackal
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                Thanks David for the quick response

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  I have just released DuetEthernetFirmware1.19beta10+1. The primary reason for this release is that on some Duet Ethernet boards, it was not possible to flash new firmware using the web interface or M997 when a recent 1.19beta firmware version was installed. AFAIK this only affected the Duet Ethernet, so I have not released new binaries for the other Duets.

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                  • DjDemonDundefined
                    DjDemonD
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                    Lesson learned. 🙂

                    @minim:

                    @DjDemonD:

                    Fixed thank you. I did have deployprobe and retractprobe macros.

                    However since we all know few if anyone reads the release notes, maybe that one could be in the original post above since it will affect almost everyone. Just saying realpolitik and all that.

                    I'd agreed for a stable release but I think most people beta testing actually reads the release notes. I do.

                    Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @Jackal:

                      I believe it is to avoid the probe not being deployed when executing G30/G29 as a single command
                      If you are doing bed compensation with multiple G30, you should use M401 M402

                      Thanks to you and dc42 for the replies.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Jackalundefined
                        Jackal
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                        I just tried tuning the heaters, my E3D V6 with 30W heater got this result:
                        Heater 3 model: gain 454.8, time constant 203.3, dead time 5.0, max PWM 1.00, mode: PID
                        Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P15.9, I0.078, D55.9
                        Computed PID parameters for load change: P15.9, I1.103, D55.9

                        pre-beta 10 result:
                        M307 H3 A465.8 C207.5 D7.0 S1.00 B0

                        However it failed to tune my heat bed on first run:
                        Auto tune of heater 0 failed due to bad curve fit (G=59.2, tc=65.8, td=0.0)

                        one second run it got
                        Heater 0 model: gain 53.4, time constant 52.2, dead time 1.0, max PWM 1.00, mode: PID
                        Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P177.6, I3.406, D122.1
                        Computed PID parameters for load change: P177.6, I58.798, D122.1


                        The 2 blue peaks are from the heat bed PID tuning, look similar to me
                        The yellow peak is the heater after new PID tuning, look AMAZING

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                        • larsundefined
                          lars
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                          @dc42:

                          Lars, thanks for trying the leadscrew adjustment. To help me diagnose this, please do the following:

                          1. Create a copy of bed.g as a macro. In that macro, replace S3 on the last G30 command by S-1.

                          2. First run the macro, then G31. Repeat until the corrections are out of range. Post the output.

                          I take it you mean G32 not G31…

                          20:40:32 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                          Bed probe heights: -0.663 -0.068 -0.086, mean -0.272, deviation from mean 0.276
                          20:39:49 G32
                          Error: some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 0.50mm: -0.010 0.012 0.836
                          20:37:26 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                          Bed probe heights: -0.665 -0.068 -0.088, mean -0.273, deviation from mean 0.277
                          20:36:37 G32
                          Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.229 0.135 0.409, points used 3, deviation before 0.197 after 0.000
                          20:35:37 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                          Bed probe heights: -0.287 0.152 0.078, mean -0.019, deviation from mean 0.192
                          
                          

                          Front left lead screw (-60,-10) is connected to Z (drive 2)
                          Front right lead screw (560,-10) is connected to Y (drive 1)
                          Back centre lead screw (250,560) is connected to X (Drive 0)

                          Macro "4 - Leveling Check Probe":

                          T0
                          M401
                          G30 P0 X40 Y40 Z-99999      ; probe near a leadscrew
                          G30 P1 X250 Y460 Z-99999    ; probe near a leadscrew
                          G30 P2 X460 Y40 Z-99999 S-1  ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 3 motors
                          M402
                          G90
                          G1 X250 Y250
                          T-1
                          
                          ```bed.g
                          

                          T0
                          M401
                          G30 P0 X40 Y40 Z-99999 ; probe near a leadscrew
                          G30 P1 X250 Y460 Z-99999 ; probe near a leadscrew
                          G30 P2 X460 Y40 Z-99999 S3 ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 3 motors
                          M402
                          G90
                          G1 X250 Y250
                          T-1

                          M584 Y5 X7 U8 V6 E3:4 Z0:1:2 ; Set up steppers for x, y, u, v, z and e, use P4 once it works to hide V
                          M671 X250:560:-60 Y560:-10:-10 S0.5 ; Set up lead screw positions for bed leveling

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            Thanks Lars, that gives me something to look at. You are probing close to leadscrews 2,0,1 in that order, so we would expect the corrections to be close to the height errors for points 1,2,0 in that order. They are:

                            Height errors in order 1,2,0: 0.152 0.078 -0.287
                            Adjustments: -0.229 0.135 0.409

                            So the corrections look way out. I'll check and simulate the maths.

                            Which variety of Duet do you have?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • larsundefined
                              lars
                              last edited by

                              @dc42:

                              Thanks Lars, that gives me something to look at. You are probing close to leadscrews 2,0,1 in that order, so we would expect the corrections to be close to the height errors for points 1,2,0 in that order. They are:

                              Height errors in order 1,2,0: 0.152 0.078 -0.287
                              Adjustments: -0.229 0.135 0.409

                              So the corrections look way out. I'll check and simulate the maths.

                              Which variety of Duet do you have?

                              Duet WiFi 1.0 + DueX5

                              @dc42:

                              Hi lars, is the speed problem still present in beta10? Please respond in the thread on beta10 if is is.

                              I do believe I know what caused the speed problem. In cura (2.6.2) there is a setting of max Z speed in mm/s. This was for some unknown reason set to 5mm/s for extruder 2. This translates a M203 Z5 (not at the start of the print but after first switch to t1) but should have been generated to M203 Z300 as on the duet the M203 command max federate is in mm/min.

                              If you stop the print you still got this federate when starting a new print. It might need to drop 10mm in Z with a max speed of 5mm/min at the start of the print… This should be easily solved by setting this parameter to 0 in cura, it will then not issue any M203 …

                              Would it make sense to revert max speed (and other configuration settings) to the original configuration after printing from file is done/stopped?

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                              • Yonkimanundefined
                                Yonkiman
                                last edited by

                                I think I found a bug in 1.19beta10 with my delta.

                                config.g contains:

                                M665 L265.000 R109.801 H289.779 B105.0 X-0.308 Y-0.499 Z0.000
                                M666 X0.281 Y-0.325 Z0.045 A0.00 B0.00
                                

                                After a reboot, [c]M665[/c] returns the above parameters, but [c]M666[/c] returns:

                                Endstop adjustments X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00, tilt X0.00% Y0.00%
                                ```and the bed height is incorrect when I try to print. Manually entering [c]M666 X0.281 Y-0.325 Z0.045 A0.00 B0.00[/c] after a reboot sets it correctly and the bed height is corrected when I go to print.
                                
                                Which reminds me… I'm curious what "good" numbers for endstop correction, tilt, and tower position correction are. I'd like some idea where my printer is on the range between perfect and "you really ought to fix that"...
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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  Do you have a config-override.g file, and a M501 command near the end of config.g?

                                  Those numbers look good to me.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    Lars, I found the problem: I missed a minus sign when transposing a formula from Maxima to the source code. So in the 3 leadscrews case it was computing the second leadscrew correction with the wrong sign.

                                    Please try 1.19beta10+2 which I have just released.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    • DjDemonDundefined
                                      DjDemonD
                                      last edited by

                                      Heater tuning
                                      Old version 1.18.1
                                      M307 H0 A311.7 C649.8 D3.1 S1.00 B0
                                      M307 H1 A423.4 C203.6 D5.1 S1.00 B0
                                      1.19 Beta 10
                                      M307 H0 A240.2 C387.9 D1.1 S1.00 B0
                                      M307 H1 A469.9 C253.0 D4.8 S1.00 B0

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                                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                      • W3DRKundefined
                                        W3DRK
                                        last edited by

                                        Can this new independent Z motor leveling be used for dual Z Cartesian printers like the Prusa, OrdBot, clones, etc, or is this a Delta only feature? Seems like it could be used to automatically get the X-axis of the bed mechanically leveled, only requiring the Z motors to track Y-axis movement…

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                                        • Yonkimanundefined
                                          Yonkiman
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42:

                                          Do you have a config-override.g file, and a M501 command near the end of config.g?

                                          No. I took the post-calibration M665 and M666 numbers from config-override.g, put them in config.g, and deleted config-override.g. No M501 command at the end of config.g. (I tried the M501 / config-override.g methodology in the past but ultimately prefer to have it all in config.g).

                                          Those numbers look good to me.

                                          Good to hear!

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                                          • larsundefined
                                            lars
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42:

                                            Lars, I found the problem: I missed a minus sign when transposing a formula from Maxima to the source code. So in the 3 leadscrews case it was computing the second leadscrew correction with the wrong sign.

                                            Please try 1.19beta10+2 which I have just released.

                                            Works now!

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