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    • kraegarundefined
      kraegar
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      I saw a couple printers that would have benefited from this compensation at MRRF due to errors induced in transport - some traveled better than others. Or at least on brief inspection, a few looked a bit off. But that's typical for MRRF, people slap their printers down and hit print, any auto-cal is beneficial because no one's wanting to sit around calibrating when they could be talking to others and enjoying the fest. Now whether the issue should have not occured if they'd been build more solidly is a different question, but I was very glad to have full autocalibration on my delta while there.

      That might be a rather unique use case, though, not sure how often people travel with their printers.

      Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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      • boelleundefined
        boelle
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        "no firmware other than RRF has supported any form of skew compensation"

        Repetier does, but also has to be done manual

        Q…. Would the mini IR board be a batter choice here? and how well would it work on that black matt surface with PEI sheet on?

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators
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          boelle

          There could be a way of using an IR sensor, combined with an accurately manufactured "datum" sheet to do the same form of compensation. A pattern (similar to a bar code) can be printed at various points on the datum sheet which the IR sensor, if scanned at the right height, can detect. The sheet would need to be manufactured with cutouts or very varied reflectivity

          This would be a lot of work to implement and (unlike other forms of auto calibration like delta auto calibration) is not as common an issue.

          Further more neither of these methods works with a touch probing system like the peizo sensor.

          My view is it is a low priority in comparison to most other things.

          www.duet3d.com

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          • kingfisherundefined
            kingfisher
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            I'm thinking of signing up to the indiegogo campaign, but have a quick question as I use a Mini height sensor board…

            Will the Mini height sensor board be be compatible, based on the height sensor instructions:

            "PEI: this is highly transparent to IR. Paint the underside matt black (see below) before using adhesive sheet to attach it to the bed plate."

            I assume that as the MK42 heated bed is black and the PEI is applied directly to this, this step wouldn't be required?

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            • boelleundefined
              boelle
              last edited by

              you are right

              the mk42's are matt black and the PEI is put on top

              i too will end up with the mini ir, i assume that the duet will make use of the analog output

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              • kingfisherundefined
                kingfisher
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                My heated bed from the indiegogo campaign has arrived
                Does anyone know if the Mini height sensor will be able to cope with the matt black PCB and thin PEI or would i be better off getting a sheet of Buildtak instead?
                Willing to experiment, but if the PEI is a lost cause I'd rather not put it on to only have to peel it off 30mins later…

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  PEI placed on top of a matt black surface with no intervening adhesive should be OK, but if there is an intervening adhesive sheet then reflections from the light-coloured adhesive are likely to cause problems.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • kingfisherundefined
                    kingfisher
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                    @dc42:

                    PEI placed on top of a matt black surface with no intervening adhesive should be OK, but if there is an intervening adhesive sheet then reflections from the light-coloured adhesive are likely to cause problems.

                    Thanks for the reply the PEI does have a thin adhesive layer. I might play safe to start with and get in a bigger buildtak sheet as I know that works well with the sensor.

                    I like the idea of the piezo sensors but I will need to think about how to mount it on a i3 with a Titan Aero…

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                    • DjDemonDundefined
                      DjDemonD
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                      We have a titan bracket system now not many in use currently but it works. Will work with titan and titan aero. See the site below or search DjDemonD on thingiverse. It's based on the official bracket from e3d.

                      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                      • kingfisherundefined
                        kingfisher
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                        @DjDemonD:

                        We have a titan bracket system now not many in use currently but it works. Will work with titan and titan aero. See the site below or search DjDemonD on thingiverse. It's based on the official bracket from e3d.

                        Thanks, I had a look at that I'll need to redesign it to fit my setup, I see that your bracket has some flex built in the base I'll need to come up with a way to add this to my carriage or make a two part carriage to incorporate your bracket

                        I've just made this for the IR sensor which is working quite well. (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2441400) So I'll stick with this and buildtak in the short term and keep an eye out for Cartesian Piezo carriages/brackets and switch if i need to move over to PEI

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                        • DjDemonDundefined
                          DjDemonD
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                          No worries, these things are quite versatile. The tuning window (the usable range if you prefer) will be narrow but they can work just bonded to the side of any part that flexes on nozzle contact.

                          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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