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    • burtoogleundefined
      burtoogle
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      I have made some contributions to Cura and one of the recent changes is that it now really does differentiate between Marlin and RepRap flavour gcodes. Until recently it had RepRap(Marlin) flavour that has to conform to various Marlinisms and so wasn't really that well matched to RepRap. It now has separate Marlin and RepRap flavours and so there's no obvious reason why the RepRap flavour gcode could not support relative extrusion. I shall investigate and will keep you posted.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        Thanks, that would be great!

        Another good feature would be to write T0 to the Gcode file before any temperature-setting commands, if no T commands would otherwise be written.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • burtoogleundefined
          burtoogle
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          @dc42:

          Another good feature would be to write T0 to the Gcode file before any temperature-setting commands, if no T commands would otherwise be written.

          OK, I'll look at doing that as well.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
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            Lars and Kulitorum, please can you each post about 20 lines from the gcode files you are printing around the point where your slicer generates a tool change. I may be able to simplify the absolute extrusion distance tracking a little, but I need to know what Cura is doing with the extrusion distance when it changes tools.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • burtoogleundefined
              burtoogle
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              @dc42:

              Lars and Kulitorum, please can you each post about 20 lines from the gcode files you are printing around the point where your slicer generates a tool change. I may be able to simplify the absolute extrusion distance tracking a little, but I need to know what Cura is doing with the extrusion distance when it changes tools.

              Just checked the current Cura code and it resets the distance to zero on extruder change.

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              • Kulitorumundefined
                Kulitorum
                last edited by

                Hmmm, homeing takes forever in RC4…. Maybe it's just me, but in my latest tests, the printer would home X, then just sit there for maybe 30 secs before homeing Y. This is when sending a G28 command. Pattern repeats for other axies.

                Anybody else see this?

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                • Kulitorumundefined
                  Kulitorum
                  last edited by

                  After playing around, it seems that the command

                  G1 X-355 F6000 S1

                  Will keep going (counting, not actually moving the head) after the endstop has been hit, until the X-355 has virtually been reached. I would assume the wanted behavior would be for that G1 move to exit once the endstop has been hit? This may be the source of the delays.

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                  • Kulitorumundefined
                    Kulitorum
                    last edited by

                    Also, my U axis with this command:

                    G1 U370 F600 S1

                    Moves at max allowable speed (42000 in my case) and not F600 as requested. The other axes does not display this behavior

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                    • larsundefined
                      lars
                      last edited by

                      @dc42:

                      Lars and Kulitorum, please can you each post about 20 lines from the gcode files you are printing around the point where your slicer generates a tool change. I may be able to simplify the absolute extrusion distance tracking a little, but I need to know what Cura is doing with the extrusion distance when it changes tools.

                      G1 X217.984 Y238.175 E143.27576
                      G1 X218.406 Y237.387 E143.28697
                      G1 X218.897 Y236.64 E143.29818
                      G1 X219.453 Y235.939 E143.3094
                      G1 X220.069 Y235.291 E143.32061
                      G1 F1200 E127.32061
                      G92 E0
                      ; Start tool change script in cura
                      G91
                      G1 Z0.5 F1800 ; move bed down
                      G90
                      ; End tool change script in cura
                      T1
                      G92 E0
                      
                      M109 S200
                      M104 T0 S180
                      G1 F1200 E14
                      G0 F18000 X220.069 Y235.291 Z4.3
                      G0 X227.6 Y241.835
                      G0 X227.6 Y243.1
                      M104 S210
                      ;TYPE:WALL-INNER
                      G1 F1800 E16
                      G1 F4800 X246.4 Y243.1 E16.23576
                      
                      
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                      • larsundefined
                        lars
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                        Just checked the current Cura code and it resets the distance to zero on extruder change.

                        A initial G92 E0 would be nice as it starts printing without resetting the extruder.

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                        • burtoogleundefined
                          burtoogle
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                          @lars:

                          Just checked the current Cura code and it resets the distance to zero on extruder change.

                          A initial G92 E0 would be nice as it starts printing without resetting the extruder.

                          You could put that in the start gcode.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            @Kulitorum:

                            Hmmm, homeing takes forever in RC4…. Maybe it's just me, but in my latest tests, the printer would home X, then just sit there for maybe 30 secs before homeing Y. This is when sending a G28 command. Pattern repeats for other axies.

                            Anybody else see this?

                            ...

                            After playing around, it seems that the command

                            G1 X-355 F6000 S1

                            Will keep going (counting, not actually moving the head) after the endstop has been hit, until the X-355 has virtually been reached. I would assume the wanted behavior would be for that G1 move to exit once the endstop has been hit? This may be the source of the delays.

                            I can't reproduce that. I'm using the same config and homing files as you are except that my Z homing file is just G92 Z0. When I press Home All, as soon as I trigger the X homing switch it homes Y.

                            @Kulitorum:

                            Also, my U axis with this command:

                            G1 U370 F600 S1

                            Moves at max allowable speed (42000 in my case) and not F600 as requested. The other axes does not display this behavior

                            I can't reproduce that either. Perhaps it depends on which tool (if any) is selected. EDIT: I've tried it with T0, T1 and with no tool selected.

                            Can you run a few more tests and come up with a command sequence that demonstrates these issues immediately after a reset?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • larsundefined
                              lars
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                              @burtoogle:

                              You could put that in the start gcode.

                              Yep, did that. It was not needed pre RC1. Once you know you need it it's simple to put it in the start gcode.

                              @burtoogle:

                              I have made some contributions to Cura and one of the recent changes is that it now really does differentiate between Marlin and RepRap flavour gcodes. Until recently it had RepRap(Marlin) flavour that has to conform to various Marlinisms and so wasn't really that well matched to RepRap. It now has separate Marlin and RepRap flavours and so there's no obvious reason why the RepRap flavour gcode could not support relative extrusion. I shall investigate and will keep you posted.

                              What version is this? Don't remember seeing it in 2.6.2?

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                              • burtoogleundefined
                                burtoogle
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                                @lars:

                                What version is this? Don't remember seeing it in 2.6.2?

                                Hi, not it's not in a release yet, I think that 2.7 will probably have it.

                                I am just working on a PR that makes Cura use relative extrusion when it outputs RepRap flavour gcode.

                                A question: when using relative extrusion, is G92 E0 required at all, and if not required, if it is present, does it cause any problems?

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  G92 E0 is not required at all when doing relative extrusion. But it doesn't cause any problems.

                                  When using relative extrusion, it's best to include M83 near the beginning of the gcode somewhere before the first extrusion command, to tell the firmware that relative extrusion is in use.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • burtoogleundefined
                                    burtoogle
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42:

                                    G92 E0 is not required at all when doing relative extrusion. But it doesn't cause any problems.

                                    When using relative extrusion, it's best to include M83 near the beginning of the gcode somewhere before the first extrusion command, to tell the firmware that relative extrusion is in use.

                                    Understood, thanks.

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                                    • dintidundefined
                                      dintid
                                      last edited by

                                      Issues I've found so far:

                                      • Getting following error at each restart/reboot: Can't open 0:/sys/oem.json to read, error code 4

                                      • Can't edit Macros

                                      • Can't delete Macros

                                      • When using M200 D1.75 in order to run in Volumetric mode the lenght of manual extrusion is around 4/10 the expected length

                                      • Filaments - can add one with name, but no properties/can't edit

                                      Using

                                      Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.0 + DueX5
                                      Firmware Version: 1.19RC3 (2017-08-05)
                                      WiFi Server Version: 1.19beta10
                                      Web Interface Version: 1.17+2

                                      RepRapFirmware supported G-codes: https://duet3d.com/wiki/G-code

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                                      • burtoogleundefined
                                        burtoogle
                                        last edited by

                                        I have created CuraEngine PRs that always using relative extrusion and output an initial T0 before any temperature setting commands when generating RepRap flavour firmware. Hopefully, they (or a variant) will get accepted and then become available in the 2.8 release.

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                                        • larsundefined
                                          lars
                                          last edited by

                                          @burtoogle:

                                          I have created CuraEngine PRs that always using relative extrusion and output an initial T0 before any temperature setting commands when generating RepRap flavour firmware. Hopefully, they (or a variant) will get accepted and then become available in the 2.8 release.

                                          Nice!

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            @dintid:

                                            Issues I've found so far:

                                            • Getting following error at each restart/reboot: Can't open 0:/sys/oem.json to read, error code 4

                                            • Can't edit Macros

                                            • Can't delete Macros

                                            • When using M200 D1.75 in order to run in Volumetric mode the lenght of manual extrusion is around 4/10 the expected length

                                            • Filaments - can add one with name, but no properties/can't edit

                                            Using

                                            Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.0 + DueX5
                                            Firmware Version: 1.19RC3 (2017-08-05)
                                            WiFi Server Version: 1.19beta10
                                            Web Interface Version: 1.17+2

                                            Thanks for your report.

                                            Regarding #1, it's normal for that message will be generated if you have Platform debugging enabled. It's not usual to run a printer with debugging enabled. Perhaps you have a M111 command in config.g left over?

                                            Regarding #s 2, 3 and 5, those functions are working properly for me. However, I am running a pre-release copy of DWC 1.19. I've asked chrishamm if he is happy to release that version yet. I don't plan to release RRF 1.19 until DWC 1.19 is also available.

                                            I will investigate #4.

                                            EDIT: regarding #4, I see what is happening. You enable volumetric extrusion, and the firmware then assumes that all extrusion commands received are in volumetric units - including values received from DWC. Looks like we I should make volumetric extrusion work on a per input source basis, and turn it off when starting to print a new gcode file.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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