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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      @phil333 said in Multiple issues after RRF 3.2.0 to 3.3.0 update:

      I have been using 3.3 for many months on multiple printers generating hundreds of prints and have not found any significant problems

      That's great, but it doesn't help me. I also don't know what you are trying to tell me with this information.

      Sorry - I wasn't clear.

      I would suspect the problem is related to your hardware and/or configuration, rather than the firmware itself. It there was a fundamental flaw in the firmware I think I would have encountered it by now.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @Phil333
        last edited by

        @phil333 said in Multiple issues after RRF 3.2.0 to 3.3.0 update:

        As there is no fix yet, should I downgrade to RRF 3.2 anyway to help you tracking this issue?

        yes that would confirm the issue which would be helpful.

        www.duet3d.com

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        • Phil333undefined
          Phil333
          last edited by Phil333

          @T3P3Tony _
          I uploaded Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.zip and let it install.

          DWC is now on 3.2.0 but RRF is still on 3.3:
          3cdc2125-d1be-407b-a29a-950c2633fd6a-image.png

          I will now try to just upload the Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin and see how it goes.

          EDIT:
          Seems like I cant downgrade this way.
          Uploaded and installed the Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin from release 3.2 but I am still on 3.3:
          2c06aa9f-3e1d-4d24-9861-1d2c8e5174bb-image.png

          What am I doing wrong?

          EDIT 2:
          I also tried a downgrade to 3.0
          While DWC downgraded sucessfully:
          66a91ea5-863e-4c8f-b42d-0bb0f615a139-image.png

          RRF remained on 3.3
          e9a4f45e-547d-4c91-ab2b-3b9d3b67605f-image.png

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @Phil333
            last edited by

            @phil333 please do the following:

            1. reupload the 3.2 Duet2and3Firmware.zip so DWC is on 3.2 and the binary firmware files are 3.2
            2. send M997 to force a firmware update.

            www.duet3d.com

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            • Phil333undefined
              Phil333
              last edited by Phil333

              @T3P3Tony

              I did so and used the Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.zip (no renaming involved).

              After decompressing, it asks me if I want to update:

              3ccf77ff-4d42-4488-8a27-fb84dd8228d4-image.png
              This time I clicked on "NO" and did the M997 on the console.

              19894c15-6dda-40f9-9187-1cf10f015e40-image.png

              Then it started updating, but I am still on RRF 3.3

              fe8b49a6-ef6b-462b-94b4-03a682acef5e-image.png

              Any ideas?

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @Phil333
                last edited by

                @phil333 probably caused by the change in directory try:

                M997 P"0:/sys/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin"

                If that does not work try

                M997 P"0:/firmware/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin"

                www.duet3d.com

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                • Phil333undefined
                  Phil333 @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by Phil333

                  @t3p3tony

                  M997 P"0:/sys/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin"
                  is giving me a beacon:
                  ec2cafc5-667a-490d-82a9-44c0b8324cb3-image.png

                  but it seems to do something:
                  daff639a-8739-47c4-8176-df0bbc907386-image.png

                  Yeap!
                  It did it!
                  1ffbf786-4e78-4f64-891b-ed9bcc21ad47-image.png

                  Now the important part:
                  The BLtouch is working normally with the 2 pin out/in cycle, no delay, everything as before!

                  This includes:

                  • BLtouch inititialization as normal
                  • The"Calibration and Compensation" -> "Define Area for Mesh Compensation (M557)" on the Dashboard is working correctly.

                  (Testing the rest right now)

                  For you @T3P3Tony :
                  Should I now go to RRF 3.3 again and see if this issue is reproducible?

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @Phil333
                    last edited by

                    @phil333 I am checking with @dc42 to see if the potential fix has been added yet. In the mean time if you have the time then please do upgrade back to 3.3 and then to 3.4b5 and test at each point.

                    I have these instructions here from another post which I am posting in there entirety. I am not yet sure if 3.4b5+1 has the potential fix in it though.

                    First upgrade to 3.3:

                    • download the Duet2and3Firmware-3.3.zip file from https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.3
                      and use "system" -> "upload system files to upload it. it will prompt you to install the updates say yes.
                    • Assuming that all goes as expected DWC should reload and you should see 3.3 versions reported for DWC and RRF in the General and Machine Specific tabs in DWC.
                    • To get around a issues with future upgrades (we switched from /sys/ to /firmware for firmware binaries between 3.2 and 3.3) the best thing is to re- upload the Duet2and3Firmware-3.3.zip again at this point. you don't need to re-install the updates. this just ensures stuff is in the right place for future upgrades.

                    Second upgrade to 3.4b5

                    • get the Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin and DuetWebControl-SD.zip files from here: https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5
                    • Upload the firmware binary first and say yes to install the update. then upload the SWC zip.
                    • check that the firmware and DWC are now reported as being 3.4b5

                    Finally upgrade to the 3.5b5+1

                    • Get the Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin from the dropbox link (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0). There is no updated DWC.
                    • uploaded it as in the previous step, say yes to the update
                    • the Machine specific tab/M115 should report 3.4.0beta5+1 (2021-10-29)

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • Phil333undefined
                      Phil333
                      last edited by

                      Hey @T3P3Tony

                      I took the time, because its important for you to know - and I am happy to help you and give something back 🙂

                      For 3.3
                      I did update to RRF 3.3 using the Duet2and3Firmware-3.3.zip then reuploaded it (not installing again).
                      Installation was successfull.
                      I turned the printer off completely (to ensure all files properly and freshly loaded).
                      The issue with the BLtouch appeared again.

                      For 3.4.0 beta 5
                      I uploaded the Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin and istalled it.
                      Thereafter I uploaded the DuetWebControl-SD.zip.
                      Update was successfull:
                      Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta5
                      FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-10-12 13:55:00
                      Duet Web Control 3.4.0-b5

                      BLtouch issue still exists.

                      For the 3.5b5+1
                      I did so and update was successfull:
                      Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta5+1
                      FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-10-28 21:18:14

                      The issue is still existent.

                      Is there anything more I can do/check for you right now?
                      If so, please give me further instructions 😉

                      If not, I will roll back to 3.2.x to have a usable system.
                      This issue caused already a crash where my printhead got deformed and unleveled my 4 axis print bed, which I will now calibrate and level again (to print something later on).
                      This happened after starting a print right after booting,when the BLtouch was not yet ready and I was not aware of this problem 😞

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                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                        T3P3Tony administrators @Phil333
                        last edited by

                        @phil333 thanks for you help testing this. Best to roll back to 3.2 for now. I will post here when i have an update.

                        www.duet3d.com

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          @phil333, YouTube tells me that your video is private, so I am unable to view it.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @Phil333
                            last edited by dc42

                            @phil333 in future, please start a separate thread for each separate issue. Threads that contain multiple issues take too long to search for information relevant to one particular issue.

                            Regarding the issue of the BLTouch not initialising, I am unable to reproduce this. I have tested BLTouch versions 1.0 and 3.1 with RRF 3.3 at both 12V and 24V VIN, and BLTouch version 3.1 with RRF 3.4.0beta5+1 at 12V and 24V. In all cases the BLTouch initialises correctly. The BLTouch was connected to the exp.heater3 output as shown at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet_without_expansion_board.

                            Assuming this remains a problem for you, please start a new thread and include or attach your config.g file to your post.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • Phil333undefined
                              Phil333 @dc42
                              last edited by Phil333

                              @dc42

                              Try again, I corrected it 😉

                              Here for a faster access:
                              https://youtu.be/IHGDNubi_jQ

                              Its a problem that you cant reproduce it.
                              I am using a Duet 2 Wifi v1.04c powered by 24V (Meanwell) and a quiet recent BLtouch (so v3.0 or 3.1)
                              All genuine and the issue is on my side 100% reproducible.

                              Wiring is definetly not the issue here. (tested with the clone directly connected to the Duet - shortest wire possible).
                              2 different BTtouch clones tested with the same issue.

                              I am pretty sure its a firmware issue.
                              Tested the BLtouch on exp.heater3 (connected currently) but also checked (exp.heater4 and exp.heater5.)

                              As the problems disappears on 3.2.0 and comes back again on 3.3+ I think we can say its not a hardware issue.

                              I already opened a thread only for this issue:
                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/25573/bltouch-problem-after-upgrade-to-rrf-3-3/5

                              But as more issues came up, I thought to open one not in the "third party add-on" section but rather to the "firmware" section".

                              All other problems then the BLtouch are solved.

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