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Z probe stuck at 1000 with smart affector

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    Freddy1455
    last edited by 10 Jan 2017, 05:11 1 Oct 2017, 02:56

    my z probe in the web interface is stuck at 1000, when i tap the effector the strain Gage light turns on like its working. im enclosing config.g my fw version is 1.19-b6 (2017-05-19) and im using the 0.8.5 Ethernet version of the duet. do u guys have any ideas about whats going on?

    ; Configuration file for Duet 0.8.5 (firmware version 1.17)
    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon May 22 2017 19:19:15 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)

    ; General preferences
    M111 S0 ; Debugging off
    G21 ; Work in millimetres
    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
    M665 L494.762 R249.273 H371.713 B150.0 X0.215 Y-0.498 Z0.000
    M666 X-0.309 Y0.608 Z-0.299 A0.00 B0.00
    M208 Z-10 S1 ; Set minimum Z

    ; Endstops
    M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
    M558 P5 R0.4 F1000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
    G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 R150 S30 ; define a grid with the specified radius and spacing (for delta printers)

    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
    M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
    M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
    M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
    M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E396.23 ; Set steps per mm
    M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

    ; Heaters
    M143 S260 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 260C
    M305 P0 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
    M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ; Network
    M550 PMy printer ; Set machine name
    M540 PBE:EF:DE:AD:FE:ED ; Set MAC address
    M552 P192.168.5.202 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
    M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
    M554 P192.168.5.1 ; Set gateway
    M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

    ; Fans
    M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

    ; Custom settings are not configured
    M501

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      Freddy1455
      last edited by 10 Jan 2017, 05:20 1 Oct 2017, 05:19

      checked my wire resistance and no wires are crossed or broken.

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        number40fan
        last edited by 1 Oct 2017, 06:09

        Might unplug the hotend fan and see if it drops back to 0.

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 1 Oct 2017, 07:29

          Looks like you have a wiring problem. With P5 in the M558 command the pullup resistor is enabled, so you will get a reading of 1000 with nothing connected to the input pin.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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            Freddy1455
            last edited by 10 Jan 2017, 15:43 1 Oct 2017, 13:15

            cool, knowing that im guessing i miswired it, i pulled the 6 pin and its still at 1k

            https://imgur.com/a/OJasg

            is my wiering correct?

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              Freddy1455
              last edited by 1 Oct 2017, 20:12

              i updated the firmware to 1.19 checked the wiring, my z is still at 1000.
              i can send a M672 S131:131 and it blinks 5 times like its receiving commands.

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by 1 Oct 2017, 22:14

                Your wiring looks correct. My guess is that you have a bad crimp connection at one end of the white wire; but there it could be a problem on the strain effector instead. So check the following on the strain effector:

                • That pin 5 of the 8-way connector (the pin that the white wire connects to) has been soldered on the underside of the board. That connector has to be hand soldered, so it's possible that a pin has been missed.

                • That resistor R5 is present and both ends of it are soldered down. It's on the underside of the board close to the 8-way connector.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  Freddy1455
                  last edited by 2 Oct 2017, 00:00

                  i checked my crimps and that that resister was there and still 1000 in my z.
                  https://imgur.com/a/sp6VA

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                    Freddy1455
                    last edited by 10 Mar 2017, 12:54 3 Oct 2017, 12:54

                    got it working, by using M558 P1 R0.4 F1000 X0 Z0

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 3 Oct 2017, 13:17

                      That's odd. If it works with M558 P1 then it should work with M558 P5 as well, unless somehow the output resistor on the effector (R5) has much too high a value, or there is a bad connection in the output wire.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        number40fan
                        last edited by 5 Oct 2017, 07:09

                        You have two M558.

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                          number40fan
                          last edited by 5 Oct 2017, 07:55

                          Comment out the one in the Endstop with a colon ; and test it. Can always change it back.

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 5 Oct 2017, 12:22

                            Unplug the 8-pin socket from the effector and push the 2 ends of a piece of wire into pins 5 and 6 of it. That should give a Z probe reading of zero. If it doesn't, then the problem is most likely a bad crimp connection in the cable, or a wiring error, or a firmware configuration error. You can check that by shorting together the IN and GND pins of the Z probe connector on the Duet. If that makes the reading go to zero, then the fault lies in the cable.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by 5 Oct 2017, 17:09

                              I'm glad you solved it. I find it impossible to check by visual inspection that crimped cable connections are OK, so when I make PanelDue cables up for customers, I always check the cable with a multimeter, or by using it to connect a PanelDue to a Duet.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Snimaxundefined
                                Snimax
                                last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 14:07

                                Hi, i have almost the same problem, that the probe is stuck at 1000. If i short pin 5 and 6 it goes down to 0. When i try setting using M558 P1it goes down to ~939. Any idea what the problem could be?

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                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 19:43

                                  Does the green LED on the smart effector behave normally?

                                  Are you shorting pins 5 and 6 on the effector itself to get the reading to go down to 0, or are you shorting them somewhere else?

                                  Is resistor R5 present on your effector and properly soldered? It should measure 1K.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    Snimax
                                    last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 06:54

                                    The green led is behaving normally, it's blinking twice at boot-up and is green all the time when the reading is at 1000. It is when I've shorted the pins on the effector that i get the reading 0.
                                    The resistor R5 is present on the board and from what i can see it's properly solderd, but I havn't mesured its resistance yet, have to do it this afternoon.

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                                      Snimax
                                      last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 19:52

                                      The R5 measures to 996 ohm so it should be fine

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                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 22:57

                                        After blinking at startup, the green LED should be off, at least when the effector is stationary. If it's always on, then either the effector is faulty, or something (most likely one of the fans) is generating enough interference to trigger the sensor. If you disconnect the 6-pin cable that feeds power to the heater and fans and then power up, does the green LED still remain on? If so, then the effector is faulty and you should ask for a replacement.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • Snimaxundefined
                                          Snimax
                                          last edited by 12 Jan 2017, 10:10 1 Dec 2017, 10:10

                                          You are correct, if I disconnect the fans the sensor behaves normally; its off after the initiall two flashes and then flashes if i tap the hotend with my finger.

                                          But since the fans are triggering a signal of 939 of 1024 I guess I'll just have to drop the sensitivity till the fans doesn't trigger it anymore

                                          Edit: I should add that I use the supplied 30mm fan for the hotend and the 40mm fan attached via your design:https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2467663 if it helps someone else

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