Anycubic Delta (Trigorilla vs Duet Wifi) Wiring and configuration
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dc42
I have matched my old settings for motors from the old electronics here is my config file M203 and M566 had to be changed from ss to mins on the math. I used 1000 for M906 like Gone2Far Suggested. I can tell you honestly at this point my XYZ motors are running fast like their supposed to. My extruder is going too fast and it's going so fast the gear chews through the filiment. And watching it it's just spinning around way to fast. Is it your firmware version? Things I can tell you is. If I limit my speed on the extruder as to try and not have it going that fast some how it slows the XYZ motors down?????? Not sure what your firmware is doing. I have no idea what to do. I have now got my PanelDue installed and I ran some test prints from it's interface using both a file on DuetWifi's micro SD card and also another file from a SD card plugged into the panelDue. The result is the same. Sorry am looking around a lot and I am not able to solve this. Also with the PanelDue extruder options I have verified that 96 steps per mm on extruder stepper drive is correctly grabbing the correct amount of filament. So this all comes down to how the DuetWifi Firmware controls the extruder when printing.
Only other thing I can try if it's not your firmware is do you have a gcode file I can try that you know works correctly with 1.19.2 (2017-09-01) Firmware?
EDIT: I ADDED THIS: What does it mean when I move up those values below for speed on the drivers in config file and put the speed factor on 500 percent and the speed for printing doesn't change? To test this I have it do a print without the extruder having filiment and I run the heater E0 and bed off. What I am saying is the movements for XYZ really aren't fast like I was saying above I was just fooled into thinking it was faster than it is. What is causing it to not listen to all of the speed changes while printing. What is making the extruder run too fast and not in sync with the XYZ towers. What can I do. Getting this printer to run correctly is very important to us since we need a 3d printer for the collage class we are teaching in a few days…. The more it runs a print the slower and slower it gets? If I hit home or calibrate it seems to run at the speeds I set it at in config.g! Also it's kind of early to tell but I am also seeing that it isn't advancing up while printing a new layer. Do I have a bad board?
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
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; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Oct 19 2017 15:59:59 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time); General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
M665 R100 L215 B80 H296.3 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
M208 Z-0.1 S1 ; Set minimum Z; Endstops
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
M558 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 H10 F120 T36000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P500 X11 Y0 Z2 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 R75 S20 ; Define mesh grid; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.00 Y80.000 Z80.000 E96.000 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X300 Y300 Z300 E300 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X12000 Y12000 Z12000 E12000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E3000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
M207 S8.0 F2700 T900 Z0.2 ; Set FW retraction length and speed
M572 D0 S0.1 ; Set pressure advance; Heaters
M143 S285 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 285C
M305 P0 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C; Network
;SETTINGS NOT SHOWN; Fans
M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on; Custom settings
M912 S-18.8
M501 ; load overrides
G29 S1 ; Turn on mesh bed corrections; Miscellaneous
T0 ; Select first toolM501 ;config.g override
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From looking at your video, it really looks like the calibration of Z is off, and the nozzle is scraping hard against the bed, causing the steppers to whine and slip the belts.
I think I would start by typing commands into the gcode console to test mechanical action before trying to print more.
First home with a G28 command. Try doing G1Z10, and make sure it looks like there's a centimeter between the nozzle and bed. Can you do G1X20Y20 and have the head move diagonally? Does G1x0y0 move back to center? Is it quiet moving while away from the bed?
If all that doesn't work great, printing is gonna fail too. If that's all working, recalibrate the Z height.
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Ok thanks for your reply Gone2Far! Best I can do is show this with some screen recording and video of the printer. Along with what I said above this should give everyone a good better visual of the problem…. Let me know if I should show any other aspect of this. Thanks I appreciate all time and help I really do. This has turned into my job and sort of a full time job just making sure this printer can print. When this is fixed my other problem is the extruder vs xyz sync!
Hopefully you can play Mp4. The earlier videos was large files .mov from iphone. This should be better...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PZUxBN09renBtdk0Another video just to show the problem without the bed being part of the equation.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PZUxBN09renBtdk0I'll upload to youtube if this is too blurry! Maybe download the file and play it!!
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Looking at your video, I agree that far too much filament is coming out of the nozzle. Normally I would say that your extruder steps/mm is much too high, but you have it set to 96 which is about right for an ungeared extruder. So I suspect that you have the extrusion width set much too high in your slicer settings. If your nozzle is 0.4mm then the extrusion width should be set to about 0.5mm.
Another possibility is that there is a command in your sliced gcode or homing files etc. that is increasing the extruder steps/mm. You can check this by starting a print, pausing and cancelling it when it starts over-extruding like that, then run M92 with no parameters and check that it still reports the E steps/mm as 96.
Yet another possibility is that you have sliced using absolute extruder coordinates but your printer is in relative extrusion mode because you haven't included M82 in your slicer start gcode. If this is the case, the extrusion amount will start OK at the very beginning but increase rapidly.
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Thank you thank you dc42!
I have had my nozzle set to .4mm. I did the M92 and everything was checking out with that. So I tried M82 and yes ok M82! Heres a victory video! I lost audio toward the end but I was showing what type of 3D printing I'll be trying to do for that class "Lithophanes" 3D photos. Most people aren't used to 3D printing so we are teaching how to do something simple that they may like to do that's not normally practical. The model I show was done on the trigorilla board. Instagram photo of my fiance who is the actual art teacher. I am the one 3d printing teaching her I guess lol, I'll be there doing the printing not talking lol. I was also saying thanks a bunch too!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PaHVPWWpWd0tiVmc
Finished picture! PLA, Keep in mind that layer height is set at lowest quality. I see I need to do another bed level configuration based on the brim at bottom..
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01Pa3RTalR1LUh6NFE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PSWtFVzJEMURIdmsTest box square I kept trying to print and this time after a bed level. PLA Low quality layer height.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PX2ZQdEVUSUE4cFE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PeTZsZEM1aG9kSTgIs there a way to add M82 in one of these scripts on duetwifi board to automatically select the correct type of printing.? In case I run along some files and do not know it does not have M82? Worse that could happen is the firmware would see it twice which is not a problem I'm sure.
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We recommend that you slice your files using relative extruder coordinates instead of absolute coordinates, then you need M83 rather than M82. Whichever you choose, you can put a M82 or M83 command in config.g to set the default. You may find that you have M83 in config.g already. Sending it more than once is harmless.
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Thanks dc42! If you haven't seen it in the example print category I wanted to show you here. It's definitely at this point printing way better than the old trigorilla! It printed this faster than the smaller ones I did from the old board. I also kept thinking it wasn't running and had to look directly at it, it's just so quiet.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4nxVsZnC01PVmhWem1sU3NxWEE
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mydayofplay, I am not sure if you figured out the need to double tap the home button or not, but if you increase the X, Y and Z in the first G1 line of your homedelta.g file, to be about 30% taller than your homed height, it should take care of that issue.
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I noticed that I had to hit it twice, but haven't got around to asking. I kept trying to focus on the most important stuff. I did try to look for the answer several times so big thanks to you number40fan!!!
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I noticed that I had to hit it twice, but haven't got around to asking. I kept trying to focus on the most important stuff. I did try to look for the answer several times so big thanks to you number40fan!!!
This issue has come up before, so I'll add it to the "Common problems" page.
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Thanks dc42, I also think you should update some scripting on the firmware somehow to automatically do it. However for now along with adding it to the common problems you could also change the comment line above this code to not only suggest to change speed but, also change the XYZ height if having to home twice!
I changed
G1 X265 Y265 Z265 F12000 S1
to
G1 X300 Y300 Z300 F12000 S1
It fixed it for me. Before the only thing it told me to change was the speed from 1200 to 12000 for instance. However I am not sure why it was at 265. I think that the XYZ should match config.h plus the added possible auto configuration from config-override.g or current configuration changes minus a little to not run into the endstops to get ready for slow second rise. So that means you would have to update homedelta every time somebody runs their prints if they have a z probe calibration with? M665 and M666 and M500. I don't know seems like it could be scripted to fix itself easily without having to tell people to change that line….
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Did you generate your homedelta.g file using configtool, or did it come from somewhere else?
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FWIW, here's the config I'm using:
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
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; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 02 2017 12:45:31 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time); General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
M665 R133 L288.15 B105 H220.56 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z; Endstops
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
M558 P5 R0.4 F1000 H5 ; Set Z probe type to switch, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.30 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 R110 S20 ; Define mesh grid; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes Backwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E492 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E5000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E3000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
M207 S8.0 F2700 T900 Z0.2 ; Set FW retraction length and speed
M572 D0 S0.1 ; Set pressure advance; Heaters
M143 S275 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 275C
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C; Network
M550 PAnycubic Kossel ; Set machine name
M552 S1 ; Enable network
; Access point is configured manually via M587 by the user
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on; Custom settings
M912 S-14.8
M501 ; load overrides
G29 S1 ; Turn on mesh bed correctionsNote that the steps for the extruder are high because I'm using a geared extruder. IIRC, the steps were set to 103 when I had the Anycubic extruder installed.
A short movie of the printer running here: https://onedrive.live.com/embed?cid=9EC08F79CB710BB2&resid=9EC08F79CB710BB2%21121204&authkey=AKLXBdJwlefm4MA
Are you running the smart effector with this setup?