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    matej1006
    last edited by matej1006 13 Feb 2023, 21:17

    Hello

    i have 3 noctua fans for cooling my water. and when i want check RPM is same all the time, no matter if fans are 100% or just on 30%. RPM is 1500.

    i add diode and remove it try all sort of things with out succes.

    and at the same time how can i connect this flow meter to measure if there is a flow of water colling and how high is?

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      dc42 administrators @matej1006
      last edited by dc42 13 Feb 2023, 21:44

      @matej1006 as far as I can tell from your photo, they are 3-wire fans. To get correct RPM readings when you PWM a fan, you need to use a 4-wire fan (which has a separate PWM control input). The tacho on a 3-wire fan will only give the correct reading when the PWM is 100%.

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        matej1006 @dc42
        last edited by matej1006 13 Feb 2023, 21:59

        @dc42 on picture you see only water flow sensor which i would like to connect to duet2 eth too see if my head water colling is working and what is flow.

        for noctua fan's i have this one's:
        https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-3000-pwm

        and i add zener diode back still nothing different

        Here is part of code for Noctua fan's

        ;Water temp
        M308 S5 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T10000 B10000 A"Water temp." ;configure sensor 5 as thermistor on pin e1temp
        ; Water colling NOCTUA FAN'S
        M950 F1 C"!duex.fan7+exp.pb6" Q30000 ; fan 0 is a 4-wire PWM fan so invert it, use high PWM frequency, tacho connected to PB6 on expansion connector
        M106 P1 H5 I1 T20:25 L125 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        ; Water colling PUMP
        M950 F2 C"!Fan0" Q30000 ; fan 2 is a 4-wire PWM fan so invert it, use high PWM frequency, tacho connected to PB6 on expansion connector
        M106 P2 H5 I1 T20:25 L255 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
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          dc42 administrators @matej1006
          last edited by dc42 13 Feb 2023, 22:09

          @matej1006 please show how you connected the fan(s) to the Duet.

          You can only read one tacho through a single pin such as exp.pb6.

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            matej1006 @dc42
            last edited by matej1006 13 Feb 2023, 22:19

            @dc42 16763266629161382492739856127499.jpg
            Like that i have connected nuctua fans eith my duet/12v dc external supply

            So then i can't have two tacho readings on duet2 ?
            1 for noctua rpm and 1 for water cooling flow

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              dc42 administrators @matej1006
              last edited by dc42 16 Feb 2023, 09:40

              @matej1006 you can have multiple tacho readings on Duet 2 running RRF3 if you have suitable input pins to connect them to. The reason we suggest exo.pb6 is that it is available even if you have a DueX expansion board connected. If you don't have a DueX expansion board then you can use the five additional endstop inputs on the expansion connector for tacho inputs. For safety, connect them with a diode in series as we suggest for exp.pb6.

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                matej1006 @dc42
                last edited by matej1006 22 Feb 2023, 19:15

                @dc42 So then i can use on duex5 one of the e_stop 3 4 5 6 for tacho reading?

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