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    • DannyDefeundefined
      DannyDefe
      last edited by

      I guess I'm a little confused because I'm trying to assign E2 as X. This is where I have my test motor hooked ,it doesn't pertain to the extruder.

      I have the end switchs turned off and no hotend so is there something else holding back the signals on E2?

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      • dc42undefined
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        To test the X motor by itself, send G91 first, then send G1 S2 X commands. For example, G1 S2 X10 should move the proximal (X) joint anticlockwise by 10 degrees, and G1 S2 X-10 should move it clockwise by 10 degrees. The first time you send one of these G1 S2 X commands, the motor should be energised, if you have the Enable polarity right.

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        • DannyDefeundefined
          DannyDefe
          last edited by

          Okay got it working thanks. Will be setting up and calibrating

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          • DannyDefeundefined
            DannyDefe
            last edited by

            Is there any easy way to use these proximity switches?
            On my smoothieboard it's easy to switch from 3.3v to 5 volts for the end stop switches. These will operate on 5v even though they State 6 volts minimum

            https://www.ebay.com/itm/5Pcs-NO-LJ8A3-2-Z-BX-Inductive-Proximity-Sensor-Switch-NPN-DC6V-36V-US/141830561602?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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            • DannyDefeundefined
              DannyDefe
              last edited by

              Is there any easy way to use these proximity switches. On my smoothieboard it's easy to switch from 3.3v to 5 volts for the end stop switches. These will operate on 5v even though they State 6 volts minimum

              https://www.ebay.com/itm/5Pcs-NO-LJ8A3-2-Z-BX-Inductive-Proximity-Sensor-Switch-NPN-DC6V-36V-US/141830561602?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                The endstop connectors are 3.3V. You can get 5V power from the expansion connector or the PanelDue connector to power 5V endstops. If they are NPN output sensors, you can connect the output directly to the endstop input pin. With 12V or 24V sensors I recommend connecting a diode in between to protect the endstop input in the event of loss of the ground wire, but that isn't really necessary with 5V endstops.

                Personally, I would just use microswitches. They may even be more reproducible than inductive sensors, which can be a little temperature-sensitive.

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                • DannyDefeundefined
                  DannyDefe
                  last edited by

                  David
                  I have proximal and distal homing working, but I don't want to use a probe for Z homing.
                  I'd like the Z to go all the way to the top and hit limit switch for homing.
                  I have set Z height 200mm

                  ; File homez.g
                  G91 ; relative movement
                  G1 S2 Z4 F200 ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
                  G90 ; back to absolute mode
                  G1 X100 Y100 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                  G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_Cartesian_printer#Homing_Z.

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                    • DannyDefeundefined
                      DannyDefe
                      last edited by

                      David I couldn't use that homing sequence, so I put together something from the Delta homing Z sequence. Remember the limit switch is at the top and I will be printing on the top of the desk which is 200 mm down.
                      thanks for the help

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                      • DannyDefeundefined
                        DannyDefe
                        last edited by

                        I've initially got it working!!
                        So here is the homez.g
                        G91 ; use relative positioning
                        G1 S1 Z300 F2500 ; move all carriages up 300mm, stopping at the endstops
                        G1 S2 Z-5 ; move all towers down 5mm
                        G1 S1 Z8 F500 ; move towers slowly up 8mm, stopping at the endstops
                        G1 S2 Z-5 F10000 ; move carriages down 5mm
                        G90 ; back to absolute positioning

                        But now that I've got it working I'd like to put the limit switch at the bottom of the travel on the Z, so I'll be homing at the lowest point.

                        I hope this doesn't sound confusing but Z0 will then be all the way at the top, and usable Z is 200 mm.
                        This is hard to describe but I will be printing on the top of the distal arm, there will be a plastic dish which I will be extruding clay onto. As the Z descendants the object will continue to print. The clay extruder is stationary above the
                        machine,
                        I know this sounds crazy but I've done it before with a Delta and it works fine.

                        So if you can please help with the Z homing sequence, and also I don't need thermistor so how can we block the lack of these from interfering.
                        Thanks

                        ; SCARA MINI
                        M111 S0 ; Debug off
                        M550 SCARA MINI ; Machine name and Netbios name (can be anything you like)
                        M551 Preprap ; Machine password (used for FTP)
                        ;*** If you have more than one Duet on your network, they must all have different MAC addresses, so change the last digits
                        M540 P0xBE:0xEF:0xDE:0xAD:0xFE:0xED ; MAC Address

                        ;*** Networking
                        M552 S1 ; Turn network on

                        ;*** Ethernet networking: Adjust the IP address and gateway in the following 2 lines to suit your network
                        M552 P192.168.1.14 ; (0 = DHCP)
                        M554 P192.168.1.255 ; Gateway
                        M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Netmask

                        M555 P2 ; Set output to look like Marlin
                        G21 ; Work in millimetres
                        G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                        ; Disable Fan 1 thermostatic mode
                        M106 P1 H-1
                        M584 X5 Y6 Z7 E8 ;Set drive mapping
                        ; Axis and motor configuration
                        M569 P5 S0 R0 T4 ; Drive 0 goes forwards X
                        M569 P6 S0 R0 T4 ; Drive 1 goes forwards Y
                        M569 P7 S0 R0 T4 ; Drive 2 goes forwards Z
                        M569 P8 S0 R0 T4 ; Drive 3 goes forwards E
                        ; Drive 4 goes forwards
                        M669 K4 P200 D200 A-179:170 B-120:120 C0:0:0 ; set SCARA mode and parameters

                        ;Endstop configuration
                        M574 X1 Y2 Z1 S0 ; M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1set endstop configuration (all endstops at high end, active high)
                        ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration

                        M666 X0 Y0 Z0
                        M208 S1 X50 Y-121 Z-1 ; Axis minima
                        M208 X179 Y121 Z100 ; Axis maxima ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                        M350 X1 Y1 Z1 E1 E2 I1 ; Set 1x microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X25.9820 Y17.777 ; Steps/degree for proximal and distal joints
                        M92 Z500 E106 ; Steps/mm for Z and E
                        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I60 ; Set motor currents (mA) and increase idle current to 60%
                        M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M203 X2000 Y2000 Z2000 E3600 ; Maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Maximum instant speed changes mm/minute

                        ; Thermistors
                        ;M305 P0 T100000 B3950 R4700 H30 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the bed thermistor ADC correction
                        ;M305 P1 T100000 B3974 R4700 H30 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set first nozzle thermistor ADC correction
                        ;M305 P2 T100000 B3974 R4700 H30 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set 2nd nozzle thermistor ADC correction

                        ; Tool definitions
                        M563 P2 D0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R00 S00 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                        M92 E663:663 ; Set extruder steps per mm

                        ;*** If you are using axis compensation, put the figures in the following command
                        ;M556 S78 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Axis compensation here

                        M208 S1 Z-0.2 ; set minimum Z

                        ;T0 ; select first hot end

                        ; Pressure advance
                        ;M572 D0 S0.5

                        ; Misc
                        M83
                        M117 Use https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/ to set up your printer config
                        M302 P1
                        M563 P0 D0 T1 ;enable cold extrusion.
                        T0

                        ; Heaters
                        ;M143 H1 S260 ; Maximum heater temperature
                        M140 H-1 ; No bed heater
                        ;M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Thermistor parameters for heater 1
                        ;M307 H1 A577.0 C199.0 D9.8 S1.00 B0

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                        • DannyDefeundefined
                          DannyDefe
                          last edited by

                          David did you see my last post? I actually have most everything working !
                          Now I'm going to work on the Z homing and run some accuracy tests

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            I missed your previous post. I'm glad to hear that it's all working.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • DannyDefeundefined
                              DannyDefe
                              last edited by

                              I have the limit switch at the bottom of the travel on the Z, so I'll be homing at the lowest point. The homing sequence works, but then Z should go up 200 mm to Z 0 to begin printing.
                              G91 ; use relative positioning
                              G1 S1 Z-100 F500 ; move all carriages up 300mm, stopping at the endstops
                              G1 S2 Z5 ; move all towers down 5mm
                              G1 S1 Z-8 F500 ; move towers slowly up 8mm, stopping at the endstops
                              G1 S2 Z5 F250 ; move carriages down 5mm
                              G90 ; back to absolute positioning

                              I hope this doesn't sound confusing but Z0 will then be all the way at the top, and usable Z is 200 mm.
                              This is hard to describe but I will be printing on the top of the distal arm, there will be a plastic dish which I will be extruding clay onto. As the Z descendants the object will continue to print. The clay extruder is stationary above the
                              machine,
                              I know this sounds crazy but I've done it before with a Delta and it works fine.

                              So if you can please help with the Z homing sequence and to get to Z0 at the top .

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                So Z=200 is at the bottom, and Z=0 is at the top? Then your homing switch is a Z max switch. It sounds to me that you need to:

                                • Reverse your Z axis direction in M569 so that +Z is down;
                                • Change M574 to say that the Z switch is at the max position (Z2)
                                • Set Zmax = 200 (or whatever the exact value is) in the M208 command
                                • Reverse the movement directions in your Z homing file.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • DannyDefeundefined
                                  DannyDefe
                                  last edited by

                                  David what command will stop the print when the Z Carriage hits the Z limit switch. Right now it's hitting the limit switch and then breaking the switch

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    A G1 S1 Zxxx command will stop when it hits the Z limit switch, if the switch is correctly connected and configured. Use either M119 or the Machine Properties page of Duet Web Control to check that the limit switch is working and recognised by the Duet.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                    • DannyDefeundefined
                                      DannyDefe
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but this is the command that I'm familiar with in smoothieware
                                      (gamma_limit_enable)

                                      the scara is working fine ,all of the end switches are perfect but during printing if the carriage goes too far it hits the limit switch .
                                      This should stop the machine

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                                      • DannyDefeundefined
                                        DannyDefe
                                        last edited by

                                        One more question ,how do I eliminate the necessity to have thermistors. I'm extruding clay and I have no need for these so is there a way to bypass without physically hooking them on the board

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          You can set up a trigger to stop the machine if the limit switch is hit, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/G-code#M581:_Configure_external_trigger.

                                          You don't need to connect thermistors if you don't use them. Define your tool to have no heaters in the M563 command, and use M140 H-1 to tell the firmware there is no bed heater.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                          • DannyDefeundefined
                                            DannyDefe
                                            last edited by

                                            Okay this command works (M581 TO Z1 S1 C1 ) and the switch when triggered stops the machine. However it stops the machine when it's first homing, so the print doesn't start. How can we delay this till after the first homing sequence?

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