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    • Saltlife716undefined
      Saltlife716
      last edited by

      Ok, I got a lot of problems fixed to where I can at least start tuning it.

      My only issue at the moment is (numbers are just an example of my problem)
      Max Z height = 390mm
      Min Z height = 0mm

      I send my nozzle to X-0, Y-0, Z-10.
      When I move my nozzle to the end of the bed (in any direction), the Z gradually raises.
      So lets say i'm at Z Height 10 in the center, if I move to the edge the Web Control still shows Z Height 10, but physically the nozzle is at Z Height 15 - 20. (again, it raises in any direction)

      Any thought?

      Config.g

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sun Dec 31 2017 15:54:08 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

      ; General preferences
      M111 S0 ; Debugging off
      G21 ; Work in millimetres
      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
      M665 R323.275 L450 B155 H390 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
      M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
      M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

      ; Endstops
      M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Set active high endstops
      M558 P1 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 R155 S20 ; Define mesh grid

      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
      M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
      M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
      M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E663 ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Heaters
      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ; Network
      M550 PMG v1.0 ; Set machine name
      M552 S1 ; Enable network
      M587 S"The Salt's-2G" P"TheGoodLife!0716!" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connected
      M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

      ; Fans
      M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

      ; Custom settings are not configured

      ; Miscellaneous
      T0 ; Select first tool

      BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
      Duet Wifi
      E3D v6 0.20mm
      FSR autoleveling

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      • Saltlife716undefined
        Saltlife716
        last edited by

        Here are the stepper motors i'm using.
        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-5PCS-Wantai-Nema17-Stepper-Motor-42BYGHW609P1-Single-Flat-56oz-in-40mm-1-7A-4/1477574816.html

        BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
        Duet Wifi
        E3D v6 0.20mm
        FSR autoleveling

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          Your delta printer isn't calibrated. Check that the steps/mm settings in your M92 command are correct, then calibrate your printer. See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • Martin_Sundefined
            Martin_S
            last edited by

            At the center is Z=10, but if you move to the edges of the bed the nozzle rises right?
            What happens if you send the nozzle back to the center? Does it go back to Z=10 or it keeps going up?

            If it goes back to Z=10 my guess is that your delta radius is way off.

            Happy new year for the ones that are close to midnight!!! 🙂

            If it ain't broke, fix it till it is =)

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            • Saltlife716undefined
              Saltlife716
              last edited by

              Yes the nozzle goes back to physical Z=10 when i go back to center.

              I put in all the values not 100% but extremely close. I used the RRF Configuration Tool.
              M665 R323.275 L450 B155 H390

              Delta Radius (R)-323.275mm. Measurement from middle of print bed to the center of the tower

              Diagonal Arm Length (L)-450mm. For this am I literally measuring center of tower to effector joint in parallel? If so it would be
              like 230ish, but when I put that in there, when I click Home all, it does the physical action of homing all,
              but then in the web control is says X-9999.9, Y-9999.9, Z-9999.9 and won't let me control anything. So i
              just put in 450mm for center of ball to ball length.

              Printable radius (B)-155mm. I'm using a 310mm print bed, so half of that is 155mm.

              Homed Height (H)-390mm. measurement from nozzle to bed (not accurate since the nozzle is changing z height when i try to
              level the bed.

              One a side note, how does one measure Maximum carriage travel? Then I look at the "hint" when you hover over it and it says "Maximum travel length in Z direction", wouldn't that be my "Homed Height"?

              I'm about to install these FSRs on here to see if it will auto calibrate and adjust those settings for me. But i'm not sure to what extent those will help. Never used them before.

              BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
              Duet Wifi
              E3D v6 0.20mm
              FSR autoleveling

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              • heathmancundefined
                heathmanc
                last edited by

                Take a look at your delta radius, seems awfully large, like twice what it should be. Do an image search on google for a picture of how to measure.

                Charles

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                • Saltlife716undefined
                  Saltlife716
                  last edited by

                  Ok I see what happened. In the RRF Configuration Tool it says "Distance between the centre of your towers and the joint at the effector. So I was measuring from the center of the effector joint to the center of the tower, when from the google images i looked at it said to measure to the other center of ball. And it looks pretty even now and now raises the z height, thanks everyone!

                  BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
                  Duet Wifi
                  E3D v6 0.20mm
                  FSR autoleveling

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                  • Martin_Sundefined
                    Martin_S
                    last edited by

                    If it ain't broke, fix it till it is =)

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