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    • Sparksundefined
      Sparks
      last edited by

      Need some help in fixing this please?

      Whilst working on my Duet powered off and using Simplify3D terminal (powered by the USB cable) when I disconnected the wiring and went back to Vin and wifi:

      1. Fan1 stayed on after the Duet had booted. I cant get it to respond to M106, it just spins. I have mapped P4 from the Duex in the meantime and it responds to M106 correctly.

      2. Also the heater 1 has stopped working. If I G10 P0 S200 there is no change in temp and the override kicks in (Error: Heating fault on heater 1, temperature rising much more slowly than the expected 1.7°C/sec). Multimeter across Heater E0 block shows 0V before I get the error message.

      As there are no M307s for the stock heater, I assume this is in the firmware which means I cant assign a heater output from the Duex5?

      I have no idea what caused the issue at this point..

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        Regarding #1, remember that fan 1 defaults to thermostatic mode. To control it manually, you need to send M106 P1 H-1 to disable that first.

        Regarding #2, before it reports a heater fault, does the E0 heater led light up when you turn the heater on? Are you getting normal room temperature readings for heater 1, and do they increase when you warm the heater block with your fingers?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • Sparksundefined
          Sparks
          last edited by

          Hi David,

          Tried
          10:30:42 PM M106 P1 S0
          10:30:18 PM M106 P1 H-1

          Fan still runs, also commented it out of the config.g, still no luck.

          I am using PT100 and the temps reflect room temperature and I can heat it up externally and it reflects correctly, so sensor is working fine. E0 heater light does not light up when I trigger the heater.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            In that case it sounds like the fan mosfet has failed short circuit, and the heater mosfet or its driver has also failed. It seems odd that they seem to have failed together. Did you move any of the stepper motors by hand at high speed while the power was off?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • Sparksundefined
              Sparks
              last edited by

              Not that I can think of… I removed the bed plate and flipped it over (PEI one) (found the source of my height callibration issue, bed is .5mm dipped in centre where Z homes, as opposed to where lead screws are) and calibrated mesh.

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              • Sparksundefined
                Sparks
                last edited by

                Any thoughts on this part please Dave?

                "As there are no M307s for the stock heater, I assume this is in the firmware which means I cant assign a heater output from the Duex5?"

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  There are default M307 parameters in the firmware for all the heaters, which are used if you do not provide M307 commands. The default values used depend on whether the heater is configured as a bed/chamber heater, or not.

                  Does this answer your question?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • Sparksundefined
                    Sparks
                    last edited by

                    If that means I can map my heater 4 from duex5 and assign it to T0 using M307, then yes, thanks Dave will try it tonight!!

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      If your board is still under warranty and there is nothing to indicate that you damaged it, you can ask for it to be repaired or replaced.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Sparksundefined
                        Sparks
                        last edited by

                        It worked thanks Dave!! The M305 had me stumped until I realised the P is substituted for H!

                        M307 H3 A340 C140 D5.5 I0 V0 S1.0
                        M301 H3 P10 I0.10 D100 T0.50 S1.0 ; PID settings for extruder 0
                        M563 P0 D0 H3 X0 F0 ; Define tool 0 to use extruder drive 0 and heater 3
                        M305 P3 X200; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the first nozzle thermistor ADC correction

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                        • Sparksundefined
                          Sparks
                          last edited by

                          Unfortunately its one of your first V1 board so no warranty… but I will use as is for now with remapped fan and heater

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            If you are in the US you can ask Dieter (forum user W3DRK) to give you a price for repairing it.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • Sparksundefined
                              Sparks
                              last edited by

                              Hi David….

                              Was investigating a new issue where the bed temperature doesn't rise with the heat of the bed and noticed the MCU temp is running way too high... can this be causing the issue? Th machine is just idling, no printing and the temp was touching 115 degrees? From M122...

                              MCU temperature: min 99.1, current 99.2, max 115.8

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                              • Sparksundefined
                                Sparks
                                last edited by

                                Supply voltage looks ok…?

                                M122
                                === Diagnostics ===
                                Used output buffers: 3 of 32 (8 max)
                                === Platform ===
                                RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi version 1.20 running on Duet WiFi 1.0 + DueX5
                                Board ID: 08DAM-999TL-MQ4S4-6J1FG-3SD6S-TPGRY
                                Static ram used: 15448
                                Dynamic ram used: 99416
                                Recycled dynamic ram: 3920
                                Stack ram used: 1392 current, 4504 maximum
                                Never used ram: 7784
                                Last reset 00:05:29 ago, cause: software
                                Last software reset at 2018-01-06 14:37, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 7784 bytes (slot 1)
                                Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000, CFSR 0x00000000, ICSR 0x0441f000, BFAR 0xe000ed38, SP 0xffffffff
                                Error status: 0
                                Free file entries: 10
                                SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms
                                MCU temperature: min 99.1, current 99.2, max 115.8
                                Supply voltage: min 24.8, current 25.0, max 25.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0
                                Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                Expansion motor(s) stall indication: no
                                Date/time: 1970-01-01 00:00:00
                                Cache data hit count 1314881303
                                Slowest main loop (seconds): 0.014140; fastest: 0.000045
                                === Move ===
                                MaxReps: 0, StepErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm 240, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
                                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0
                                Bed compensation in use: mesh
                                Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
                                === Heat ===
                                Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                                Heater 3 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                                === GCodes ===
                                Segments left: 0
                                Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                                Movement lock held by null
                                http is idle in state(s) 0
                                telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                file is idle in state(s) 0
                                serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                Code queue is empty.
                                Network state is running
                                WiFi module is connected to access point
                                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                                WiFi firmware version 1.20
                                WiFi MAC address 60:01:94:09:ba:08
                                WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 17288
                                WiFi IP address 192.168.1.5
                                WiFi signal strength -56dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                Socket states: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                Responder states: HTTP(1) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
                                2:42:53 PMMessage Log cleared!

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  Is the MCU really running that hot? If so, something is wrong. If not, perhaps you have a bad M912 command in config.g.

                                  The voltage reading looks a little high, but if the 3.3V rail voltage is low that will cause an artificially high reading, because the 3.3V rail is the voltage reference when the MCU measures VIN.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • Sparksundefined
                                    Sparks
                                    last edited by

                                    Just checked wit IR thermometer… around 32 degrees on the sticker on top of the chip....? I have no M912 in config.g....

                                    Also if I unplug the bed thermistor... temp still shws 28 degrees.... I am plagues by wierdness 🙂

                                    How do I measure 3.3V rail?

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                                    • Sparksundefined
                                      Sparks
                                      last edited by

                                      3.225V on Duex 5 GPIO pins…

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                                      • Sparksundefined
                                        Sparks
                                        last edited by

                                        3.222 across pin 1 and 2 on Con_LCD connector on Duet Wifi

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                                        • Sparksundefined
                                          Sparks
                                          last edited by

                                          MCU at 41.1C now using external thermometer

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            Send M912 with no parameters, to check that no CPU temperature calibration is being applied. AFAIR, before calibration the MCU temperature on the ATSAM4E on the generation 2 Duets should be within 14C of the correct value.

                                            The voltage reading on the 3.3V rail looks too low, it should be with 2% of 3.3V. Assuming your multimeter is accurate, I suspect either too much load on the 3.3V rail (in which case the 3.3V regulator IC U2 will be getting hot), or the 5V rail is at less than 4V.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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