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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      It's not tuning you need to run, it's M307 H0 which just reports the heater parameters:

      10:53:41
      M307 H0
      Heater 0 model: gain 90.0, time constant 700.0, dead time 10.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 0.0, mode bang-bang, inverted no, frequency default

      So it's safe to do while printing.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Syko_Symaticundefined
        Syko_Symatic
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        Gain 141 time constant 620.4, dead time 0.7, max PWM1.00 mode PID

        So I ran the bed tuning at 75deg. Put a little tin foil beneath the bed. Now I just managed to reach 130deg!

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        • Paulhundefined
          Paulh
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          SSD that failed was bought from ebay:

          Solid State Relay Module SSR-25DA 25A /250V 3-32V DC Input 24-380VAC Output GT
          "futek" brand
          ( 182110092170 goodgadgetsa )
          Planning to put Thermal cutout under the heatbed, in series with the 240V supply to the bed.
          The cork insulation worked well and worthwhile. Limiting the maximal temperature by choosing appropriate heater wattage sounds wise to me but is only known after it is fitted.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
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            http://www.instructables.com/id/The-inner-workings-of-Counterfeit-FOTEK-SSRs/

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • Hey_Allenundefined
              Hey_Allen
              last edited by

              If anyone here is interested, I have a pile of AC switching SSRs that were pulled from retired aerospace repair equipment, that I would be more than happy to share for the cost of postage.

              Omron, Crydom, and I think one other brand, all rated for 30A or better.

              No intent to profit on this, just thought to offer as I've seen the discussion about fake Fotek SSRs a couple of times now.

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              • mgrimes1907undefined
                mgrimes1907
                last edited by

                Hey_Allen.
                Iwas just fixing to order one.

                I would love to get one from you. I am sure they are probably better than what I could buy.
                Tell me how you would like to arrange this.

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                • mgrimes1907undefined
                  mgrimes1907
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                  I was on here looking for an answer as to why my T0 heater will not cut off when it reaches the set temperature. I have ran the Auto Tuning and put in the PID's. Played around with them for a couple of hours and I still get voltage to the heater after it reaches set desired set point.

                  Any Ideas?

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    last edited by

                    When using PID control, the heater power will not be cut off when it reaches the set temperature. Instead it will reduce the PWM to a suitable value to maintain that temperature. You may get a small amount of temperature overshoot after it reaches the set temperature, but it should be less than 5C if the heater is well-tuned.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • mgrimes1907undefined
                      mgrimes1907
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                      I had it set to 180 and everything I try keeps it going till it faults. Its like its heating up faster than the sensor reads

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                      • mgrimes1907undefined
                        mgrimes1907
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                        Still fighting with this heater. Either I get it to heat up right and then it cools down to fast when extruding or it heats up way to fast and goes into fault for being too hot. Tried the Auto Calibration again and it went to 303 degrees. Then it failed. Got this message:

                        Warning: Auto tune of heater 1 failed due to bad curve fit (G=2140.6, tc=141.1, td=5.9)

                        M301 H1 P.4 I.006 D.25 T0 S0.3
                        M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                        M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                        M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                        M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                        M143 H2 S280

                        24 volt heater in a flexion hot end. Sensor is working correctly. Just to make sure, I tried a spare.

                        Any advice would be appreciated.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          I suspect you are using a 12V heater cartridge with 24V power. The gain is far too high.

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                          • mgrimes1907undefined
                            mgrimes1907
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                            I have two that are supposed to be 24v. I will try the other one.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              If you have a multimeter, I suggest you measure the resistance of the heater cartridge. See step 9 at https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Guide/V6+Assembly/6?lang=en.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • mgrimes1907undefined
                                mgrimes1907
                                last edited by

                                I measured the resistance and sure enough, 4.4 Ohms on one and 2.9 on the other

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