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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Apart from the fact that you have changed the Z steps/mm from 400 to 820, I can't see anything wrong. Please:

      1. Post your complete config.g file;

      2. Confirm that you are using 0.9deg X and Y motors;

      3. Run M92 without parameters and check that the X and Y steps/mm are as you have set them above.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Computigerundefined
        Computiger
        last edited by

        1. Here are the complete config.g

        [[language]]
        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sun Jan 21 2018 15:11:26 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Zeit)
        
        ; General preferences
        M111 S0                                         ; Debugging off
        G21                                             ; Work in millimetres
        G90                                             ; Send absolute coordinates...
        M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M555 P5                                         ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Repetier
        ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
        
        M667 S1                                         ; Select CoreXY mode
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                ; Set axis minima
        M208 X330 Y330 Z300 S0                          ; Set axis maxima
        
        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S1                                ; Set active high endstops
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T9600                           ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P600 X330 Y0 Z0.6                           ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
        M557 X15:285 Y15:285 S20                        ; Define mesh grid
        
        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1                                      ; Drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S1                                      ; Drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S0                                      ; Drive 2 goes backwards
        M569 P3 S0                                      ; Drive 3 goes backwards
        M350 E16 I1                                     ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1                             ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X160.32 Y160.32 Z820 E440                   ; Set steps per mm
        M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120                         ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000 Y6000 Z1200 E4800                    ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500 Y500 Z250 E250                        ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1400 E800 I30                 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30                                         ; Set idle timeout
        
        ; Heaters
        M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30       ; Use PID on bed heater (may require further tuning)
        M305 P0 T100000 B3988 C0 R4700                  ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
        M143 H0 S120                                    ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700        ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
        M143 H1 S280                                    ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
        
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 D0 H1                                   ; Define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0                                    ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        
        ; Network
        M550 PHEVO                                      ; Set machine name
        M552 S1                                         ; Enable network
        M587 S"routerwsid" P"routerpw" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connected
        M586 P0 S1                                      ; Enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0                                      ; Disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0                                      ; Disable Telnet
        
        ; Fans
        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                          ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H T45                        ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
        M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H T45                        ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
        
        ; Custom settings are not configured
        
        

        2. I use 1,8 deg stepper
        ACT Motor 5pcs Nema17 Stepper 17HS5425L20P1-X2,48mm,2.5A with single plan

        3. M92
        Steps/mm: X: 160.320, Y: 160.320, Z: 820.000, E: 440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000:440.000

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman
          last edited by

          If you have 1.8 degree ungeared motors directly driving 20 tooth pulleys the steps per mm at 16x micro stepping should be 80. If you use 16 tooth pulleys, then the steps per mm should be 100.

          Z depends on the lead of your lead screws so without that information, I can't say what they should be.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • Computigerundefined
            Computiger
            last edited by

            You´re right. If I count i like http://reprap.org/wiki/Triffid_Hunter%27s_Calibration_Guide#XY_steps I got 80 steps/mm

            But my first issue is left. Drivers won´t work in interpolation mode. Noise is like A4988

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman
              last edited by

              Are you getting the correct amount of movement now, and in the correct direction for all axes?

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • Computigerundefined
                Computiger
                last edited by

                I´ve changed to 80.16 an it seems to be ok but not quite

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  There should be a large difference in the motor noise between x16 microstepping with interpolation on, and with interpolation off.

                  You can also try increasing microstepping (but interpolation only works in x16 mode). If you put the changed M350 command after the M92 command in config.g, or you send it from the command line, then you won't have to change the steps/mm in M92.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • Computigerundefined
                    Computiger
                    last edited by

                    I´ve tested today again and I can hear a different noise with Interpolation on and off.
                    Tomorrow I will test some different speeds

                    Tanks for your help

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      What speeds have you been testing with so far, and what are the steps/mm ? Microstep interpolation doesn't work at very low or very high speeds, but it works at speeds in the typical range for 3D printers. I'd like to get to the bottom if this just in case there is a firmware or hardware bug affecting it.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Computigerundefined
                        Computiger
                        last edited by

                        I tested with 1000 mm/min quiet | 7000 mm/min more noise | 12000 mm/min bit more than 7000

                        I guess it is ok and my tough was confused because wrong microsteppings

                        Thank you for kindly support

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          I have noticed that microstep interpolation is far more successful at reducing motor noise at low speeds than it is at high speeds. This isn't surprising, because at high speeds there isn't time for the chip to do high microstepping. For example, my delta has 200 microsteps/mm at x16. At 100mm/sec this gives a step pulse rate of 20kHz, which is half the chopper frequency. So the maximum theoretical microstep rate at this speed is x32.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • Computigerundefined
                            Computiger
                            last edited by

                            Ah I see. It makes sense.

                            Thanks David

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