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    • Agniusmundefined
      Agniusm
      last edited by

      Its about 10mm away from heater. Will put some just in case. I have lowered my probing speed to 400. Will test later if it make any difference.
      I have a bit of issue trying to set up my starting G code for heater sequence.
      I want printer to home, heat up the bed and nozzle at the same time, then home and perform mesh bed compensation.
      Something is wrong with my gcode and i ran out of ideas. It heats the bed, then does homing, mesh bed and then heats the nozzle.
      Here is my starting gcode:
      M83 ; extruder relative mode
      M106 P2 S1 ; LED on
      G10 ;
      M116 H0 ;
      M116 H1
      G28 W ; home all without mesh bed level
      G29 S0 ; mesh bed leveling
      G1 Y3 X-7 Z0 F7000.0 ; go outside printing area
      M572 D0 S0.07 ; Pressure advance
      G1 X100.0 E9 F1000 ; intro line
      G1 X204 E12.5 F1000 ; intro line

      I tried with M109 and M190

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        Most slicers insert there own heat-and-wait commands before your start GCode. Look at the start of the GCode file to see what your slicer has actually generated.

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        • Agniusmundefined
          Agniusm
          last edited by

          OK. Works with:
          M190 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; wait for bed temp
          M109 S[first_layer_temperature] ; wait for extruder temp
          on slic3r.
          Probing before each print made a huge difference and major headache solved.
          Left to fix elephant foot and minor ghosting on heavy Y

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          • Agniusmundefined
            Agniusm
            last edited by

            dc42, i still have some issues with mesh bed. I print a large cylinder (100mm dia) and on 2 sides it squishes filament more making it not round. and its not on x or y but diagonally I thought it was my steps but then checked my first layer closely.
            I have overlayed my map with couple of points that does not add up from my point of view:

            I took most extreme points.
            If you look at the corner points there is 0.152 difference, the middle points are at 0.166 difference and that cant be?! I have precision ground aluminium plate ant that difference per 74mm is huge so maybe the probe is at fault.
            My plate is black anodized aluminium and i have 0.5mm PEI sheet from 3D Prima:

            I have ordered a inductive probe from prusa but i really don't want to use it and change what i have unless i cant come up with solution

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            • dc42undefined
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              Have you checked whether the sensor is giving a consistent trigger height at the different probe points?

              I haven't tested the IR sensor with PEI sheet on top of a black surface. Thin PEI sheet with adhesive on the underside definitely doesn't work well with the sensor, due to the transparency of the PEI and the varying reflectivity of the adhesive sheet.

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              • Agniusmundefined
                Agniusm
                last edited by

                OK. So this might be an issue then. It does have 3M glue backing.
                Any pointers how to setup 5V induction probe?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  Connecting inductive probes is described on the wiki page about Z probes. If it has an NPN output then it should be safe to omit the diode if the supply voltage is only 5V.

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                  • Agniusmundefined
                    Agniusm
                    last edited by

                    Ah, OK, so i can use same 5V pin from expansion connector then?
                    I have seen you on the automatic skew compensation wish list thread mentioning manual skew compensation. I cant seem to find the description on wiki. I think i have my X, Y skew and would like to test if i am right or it is just a mirage.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M556_Axis_compensation.

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                      • Agniusmundefined
                        Agniusm
                        last edited by

                        Are these calibration samples to be printed on the machine being calibrated? Then, would i leave X, Y, Z bracket stuck after print, lift screw peace and measure as per photo?
                        Could be very handy piece, just needs little manual.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          Yes.

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                          • Agniusmundefined
                            Agniusm
                            last edited by

                            Sorry but i cant make sense of it. In the example S is 100mm and the calibration files are 90mm so M556 S90, but i cant figure out how to get those numbers and operate the contraption.
                            I guess i need to align the notch in screw piece to the outside of xyz piece.
                            Then whats with the screw? Do i measure from the top of xyz piece to the center of the screw or from the notch to the screw center?
                            Whats the formula then? I cant derive X0.7 Y-0.2 Z0.6 from S100 in the example

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              Instructions can be found in the Ormerod commissioning instructions on the reprappro.com site, but that site appears to be down at present.

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                              • Agniusmundefined
                                Agniusm
                                last edited by

                                Found the instructions in google cashe. I will have to wait till i get induction probe and perhaps i will think of something for piezo probe (precision piezo) i found here on forums which looks neat as well.

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                                • Agniusmundefined
                                  Agniusm
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello. 3 questions.
                                  1. Can mesh grid M557 be defined as negative value:
                                  M557 X25:395 Y-20:410 S74 ? And is there a tool to calculate these values as i only saw the tool for delta and round bed?
                                  2. I have this in start.g:
                                  M558 P4 I0 F500 X0 Y0 Z1 A3 T9000 ;
                                  Why does it not probe each point 3 times, A3?
                                  3. M591: Configure filament sensing
                                  I want to use microswitch for simple filament runout sensor.
                                  How to define it so it could be set to E1 (C parameter) and not E0 as i have induction probe on E0

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    1. Yes you can use negative X and Y coordinates. We don't provide a tool to work out the spacing yet.

                                    2. Because the definition of A3 is to probe up to 3 times or until 2 consecutive readings are within the tolerance of each other.

                                    3. C4 is the E1 endstop input.

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                                    • Agniusmundefined
                                      Agniusm
                                      last edited by

                                      Great. Thank you. Don't know, but you must have steel patience, dealing and helping individuals like me 😄

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                                      • Agniusmundefined
                                        Agniusm
                                        last edited by

                                        I have unbranded chinese psu which is loud and i am not comfortable leaving machine on with it. I was looking at meanwell psu's and thought, what will i need to swap if going 24V? Hotend heater? My bed is ac driven by ssr which is upto 36v.
                                        I have 4 nema 17 and 1 nema 23 motors, would 150w be enough cause i dont need to drive the bed heater.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          To change from 12V to 24V you need to change any heater to 24V (in your case just the extruder heater cartridge(s)), also any fans if they are currently 12V fans. There are ways of using 12V fans, but it is usually simpler and costs very little to replace them with 24V fans.

                                          A 150W PSU should be adequate if the bed heater is separately powered.

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                                          • Agniusmundefined
                                            Agniusm
                                            last edited by

                                            I will look into buck converters as noctua does not have 12v fans. I seen you mention somewhere how to wire it. Thank you
                                            P.S. Here is what i found you wrote:

                                            Yes, that will work. Alternatively, if all your fans are 12V, then you can remove the V_FAN voltage selection jumper, connect the +12V output of the buck converter to the centre pin of the V_FAN voltage selection block, and connect the fans as normal.

                                            So its a V_FAN jumper select. Then i connect step down converter to 24V PSU and 12V out to V_FAN pin with removed jumper. This is if converter is not isolated. Am i correct in this?

                                            https://www.ebay.com/itm/2A-DC-DC-Buck-Step-down-Adjustable-Converter-Module-5-24V-to-1-8V-3-3V-5V-9V-12V/132109827948?hash=item1ec25bff6c:g:ODQAAOSwB-1YtB3B
                                            I think this would be cheaper option and i will retain more common 12V fans

                                            BTW, i have set up printer with Prusa's induction probe and i have consistent Z where i can print without doing fine tuning each time. Probe sits too close to the bed for my liking but it works very good with consistent first layers. I just had 30h print and now running another production print which might take 90+h. Very happy all is running finally.

                                            Would 24V will allow for power loss resume printing? Is it reliable or better not to bother?

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