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    • DADIYundefined
      DADIY
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      You should be OK with a PT100 sensor over that distance if you use suitable wire.

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      • pabomanundefined
        paboman
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        So i have to buy the pt100 dauthger board.
        can i use a standard 4 wire pt100 of 2m then solder my wires or they need to be the exact distance without any joints ?

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        • pabomanundefined
          paboman
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          E3D pt100 are 2 wires only, is that enough for stable reading on long distance ?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/more-delta-printer-upgrades-wifi-and-silence/ includes a section on converting a 2-wire PT100 to 4-wires close to it.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • pabomanundefined
              paboman
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              great! you mean this ?

              should be, in my case, twisted pairs or shielded ?
              what AWG will be ok ?

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              • DjDemonDundefined
                DjDemonD
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                If you don't need it quick we are soon to be stocking cartridge PT1000 sensors which plug straight into the Duet board thermistor pins, they're not as high resolution (2 deg C approx) as pt100 but require no daughter boards. I'm testing 3 of them now on my latest printer and they work very well. Linear response, easy to setup, no B values, and the temperature they read is the actual temperature which I have verified by k-type thermocouple probe and IR thermometer etc…

                Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                • pabomanundefined
                  paboman
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                  it will be great to have one for testing purpose, how long the leads can be ?

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                  • DjDemonDundefined
                    DjDemonD
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                    We currently have 2m leads, I will solder on some 5m ones and see what effect that has if any on the resistance. However there is the compensation by using an R value in the config which can probably offset any change in resistance over long wires.

                    Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                    www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                    PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                    • DjDemonDundefined
                      DjDemonD
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                      @paboman:

                      it will be great to have one for testing purpose, how long the leads can be ?

                      Can you contact me via our site (see my sig). I have one spare sample which if you want you could beta test for me (and keep). Please mark the email in caps FOR ATTENTION SIMON re. PT1000 as Idris is handling all the operational stuff and he needs to forward it to me.

                      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        @paboman:

                        great! you mean this ? https://miscsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/2016-06-23-13-28-32.jpg

                        should be, in my case, twisted pairs or shielded ?
                        what AWG will be ok ?

                        Yes I mean that. If the wires will run parallel to any stepper motor wires for a significant distance then the wires should be either shielded or twisted pair. The AWG is not critical if you use a 4-wire connection.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          @DjDemonD:

                          We currently have 2m leads, I will solder on some 5m ones and see what effect that has if any on the resistance. However there is the compensation by using an R value in the config which can probably offset any change in resistance over long wires.

                          You cannot use the R parameter to compensate for wiring resistance at one temperature without introducing additional errors at other temperatures. However, a PT1000 is obviously 10x as tolerant of wiring resistance as a PT100.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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