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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      • Please confirm that you are printing from the SD card.
      • Which firmware version are you using?
      • If you repeat the print, do the pauses occur at the same place? If so then that could indicate a problem with the GCode file.

      100Mb is a large GCode file, but not unreasonable.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • alanknightundefined
        alanknight
        last edited by alanknight

        printing from the SD card

        Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet
        Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
        Firmware Version: 1.21 (2018-03-21)
        WiFi Server Version: 1.21RC4(08b3)
        Web Interface Version: 1.21-RC4

        I need loads of those things printing... next print will be three at once (instead of two)

        I'll set it going and see how it goes

        it looks like it could be a problem with the filament retraction / feed when it moves from one area to the next ? I've increased the acceleration/max speed on the extruder to see if that helps?

        thanks for the reply 🙂

        EDIT:

        not sure what happened... plastic came up out the top of the extruder... I set extruder settings back to what they were and it's printing again

        still doing the same thing tho... it does seam to be when it moves from one item to the next

        it's printing the same thing now, but 3 of them instead of two, I'm slicing with cura if that makes any difference

        (I'm lost)

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        • dc42undefined
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          Do you get the pause every time it moves from one item to another, or only sometimes?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @alanknight
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            @alanknight said in printer keeps pausing during print?:

            ..................................

            it looks like it could be a problem with the filament retraction / feed when it moves from one area to the next ?
            ................................

            not sure what happened... plastic came up out the top of the extruder... I set extruder settings back to what they were and it's printing again

            From those two statements, my guess would be that somewhere in the gcode file there might be an M82 to set the extrusion to absolute,. followed by a G1 E0 move to zero the extruder, whereas your config.g has been set such that the Duet expects relative extrusion moves. Check the gcode file for any M82 commands.

            Ian
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            • alanknightundefined
              alanknight
              last edited by

              it happens every time if moves from one area to another

              it's fine when it's printing

              just checked and found...


              G28 Z
              Error: Bad command: 91


              can;t believe I didn't see that before!

              here's my homez


              ; homez.g
              ; called to home the Z axis

              91 ; relative mode
              G1 Z4 F200 S2 ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the switch trigger height
              G90 ; back to absolute mode
              ;G1 X0 Y0 S2 F2000 ; put the head wherever you want it to be when you home Z (omit this line if it doesn't matter)
              G91 ; relative mode
              G1 Z-200 S1 F100 ; move Z down until the switch triggers
              G90 ; back to absolute mode
              G92 Z0.3 S2 ; tell the firmware that we are at Z=0.3mm


              and my home all


              ; homeall.g
              ; called to home all axes
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Wed Jun 13 2018 17:00:33 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
              G91 ; relative positioning
              G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 S1 X-205 Y-205 F3600 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
              G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
              G1 S1 X-205 Y-205 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
              G90 ; back to absolute mode
              G91 ; relative mode
              G1 Z-200 S1 F100 ; move Z down until the switch triggers
              G90 ; back to absolute mode
              G92 Z0.3 S2 ; tell the firmware that we are at Z=0.3mm
              G1 Z5 F100 S2 ; lift the nozzle after homing


              I can't see where it's wrong?

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              • alanknightundefined
                alanknight
                last edited by

                awww, it was obvious, missed the G out at the start of the homez code!

                printer is still printing, 24hours in it's 48% done

                onc this finishes I'll set it going again tomorrow and see if this fixed it!

                p.s. I bought a "PanelDue - Integrated" too... how do I make it work? I thought I just had to plug it in... had a google but can't find any info 😮

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @alanknight
                  last edited by

                  @alanknight said in printer keeps pausing during print?:

                  p.s. I bought a "PanelDue - Integrated" too... how do I make it work? I thought I just had to plug it in... had a google but can't find any info 😮

                  If it was supplied with a 4-way cable then you should just be able to plug it into the PanelDue port on the Duet. if it was supplied with a ribbon cable then you plug that into the CONN_SD header on the Duet instead.

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                  • alanknightundefined
                    alanknight
                    last edited by alanknight

                    screen came with the 4 pin cable... I tired that but it didn't work - the screen looks a bit like it's crashed - I'll try to get a photo later on

                    print head still keeps pausing when it moves between different areas

                    I don't know if it's relevant at all but it seams to over retract when it finishes printing too, not always but a couple of times I've had to push the abs back in because it's so far out the gear doesn't touch it

                    I'm a bit lost with the pausing thing 😞

                    (p.s. I tried with a couple of different files to make sure it wasn't me/cura causing it)

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                    • alanknightundefined
                      alanknight
                      last edited by alanknight

                      finished next print today... still doing the same thing..

                      checking g-code console I see...


                      5:32:39 AMFinished printing file taptop x4 at90mm.gcode, print time was 9h 28m
                      5:32:18 AMWarning: Tool 0 was not driven because its heater temperatures were not high enough or it has a heater fault
                      8:04:52 PMM32 "taptop x4 at90mm.gcode"
                      File taptop x4 at90mm.gcode selected for printing


                      no other errors, no idea if this is relevant, watching print head/bed temps while printing they look pretty constant

                      this is the gcode file for the last print (17meg)

                      https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lotu9rxetakuz9/taptop x4 at90mm.gcode?dl=0

                      I've looked through. nothing looks odd to me

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @alanknight
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                        @alanknight said in printer keeps pausing during print?:

                        I don't know if it's relevant at all but it seams to over retract when it finishes printing too, not always but a couple of times I've had to push the abs back in because it's so far out the gear doesn't touch it

                        That is probably caused by printing either using gcode generated by Cura or with absolute extrusion selected in the slicer, and retracting filament in your slicer end GCode using a G1 E-xxx command. You need to insert either M83 or G92 E0 before that G1 E-xxx command.

                        To track down the reason for the pauses, we need to see the GCode around the point where it pauses while moving between areas.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • alanknightundefined
                          alanknight
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                          I'm struggling to sort out the bit of g-code which is causing the problem, or the g-code at about the same time

                          I've made a new g-code, I took a 20mm test cube, duplicated it and shrunk them tiny (my idea bing there's less g-code for me to deal with)

                          it still pauses when it finishes a layer, moves to the next cube and then pauses before it prints (then when it finishes it pauses before it moves back to the 1stc, etc. etc.)

                          here's the start of the g-code

                          ;FLAVOR:Marlin
                          ;TIME:74
                          ;Filament used: 0.00666575m
                          ;Layer height: 0.1
                          ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 3.3.1
                          M190 S90
                          M104 S250
                          M109 S250
                          M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
                          G21 ;metric values
                          G90 ;absolute positioning
                          M82 ;set extruder to absolute mode
                          M107 ;start with the fan off
                          G28 X0 Y0 ;move X/Y to min endstops
                          G28 Z0 ;move Z to min endstops
                          G1 Z15.0 F9000 ;move the platform down 15mm
                          G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length
                          G1 F200 E3 ;extrude 3mm of feed stock
                          G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again
                          G1 F9000
                          ;Put printing message on LCD screen
                          M117 Printing...
                          G92 E0
                          G1 F1500 E-6.5
                          ;LAYER_COUNT:19
                          ;LAYER:0
                          M106 S255
                          G0 F3600 X50.6 Y90.6 Z0.3
                          ;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
                          G1 F1500 E0
                          G1 F600 X49.4 Y90.6 E0.11974
                          G1 X49.4 Y89.4 E0.23947
                          G1 X50.6 Y89.4 E0.35921
                          G1 X50.6 Y90.6 E0.47895
                          G0 F3600 X50.2 Y90.6
                          G0 X50.06 Y90.223
                          ;TYPE:SKIN
                          G1 F600 X49.774 Y89.938 E0.49909
                          G0 F3600 X49.8 Y89.938
                          G1 F1500 E-6.00091
                          G0 F3600 X50.58 Y90.53
                          G0 X51.665 Y90.53
                          G0 X148.335 Y90.53
                          G0 X149.42 Y90.53
                          G0 X150.53 Y90.53
                          G0 X150.6 Y90.6
                          ;TYPE:WALL-OUTER
                          G1 F1500 E0.49909
                          G1 F600 X149.4 Y90.6 E0.61883
                          G1 X149.4 Y89.4 E0.73856
                          G1 X150.6 Y89.4 E0.8583
                          G1 X150.6 Y90.6 E0.97804
                          G0 F3600 X150.2 Y90.6
                          G0 X150.187 Y90.224
                          ;TYPE:SKIN
                          G1 F600 X149.774 Y89.811 E1.00717
                          G0 F3600 X149.8 Y89.811
                          G1 F1500 E-5.49283
                          G0 F3600 X149.42 Y90.53
                          G0 X148.335 Y90.53
                          G0 X51.665 Y90.53
                          G0 X50.58 Y90.53
                          G0 X50.53 Y90.53
                          G0 X50.6 Y90.6
                          ;TIME_ELAPSED:13.422841
                          ;LAYER:1

                          I think that's the g-code for the first layer of both tiny
                          cubes

                          here's the full gcode file
                          0_1529585848738_2sml test cube.gcode (20Kb)

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                          • dc42undefined
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                            last edited by

                            Thanks for the sample file.

                            • Which firmware version are you running?

                            • Are you certain that the pause occurs on the first layer, when moving from one part to the other?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • alanknightundefined
                              alanknight
                              last edited by

                              Software Information
                              Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet
                              Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                              Firmware Version: 1.21 (2018-03-21)
                              WiFi Server Version: 1.21RC4(08b3)
                              Web Interface Version: 1.21-RC4

                              it happens every time it moves from one area to another without printing, so from one part to the next or is a part has two high spots then it happens when moving between them

                              do my extruder settings look ok? - I keep thinking it's as it retracts/extrudes as it moves from one area to the next?

                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80 Y80 Z2555:2555 E93 ; Set steps per mm
                              M566 X900 Y900 Z6:6 E500 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X6000 Y6000 Z90:90 E3000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X1000 Y1000 Z50:50 E500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X600 Y600 Z750:750 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                              I increased the power/speed on the extruder and it's still pausing but it seams like it's not for as long?
                              I also increased the printing speed in cura so it could be that.... idiot me should have only changed one thing at a time!

                              (I'm trying to get these parts printed before the weekend so I can use them)

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                              • AlexLinundefined
                                AlexLin
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                                shouldn't flavor be reprap? or doesn't that matter?

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @alanknight
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  @alanknight said in printer keeps pausing during print?:

                                  do my extruder settings look ok? - I keep thinking it's as it retracts/extrudes as it moves from one area to the next?

                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X80 Y80 Z2555:2555 E93 ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X900 Y900 Z6:6 E500 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X6000 Y6000 Z90:90 E3000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z50:50 E500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X600 Y600 Z750:750 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  I tried printing that GCode file and I get only slight pauses, during which the extruder is retracting or re-priming. You are using a lot of retraction. So I agree that the problem is probably related to retraction. Can you watch a gear or pulley on the extruder drive while it is printing?

                                  Your extruder acceleration in M201 is a little low (500), but not low enough to cause this problem. But I guess it's possible that you have a non-printing character in the M201 or M203 line that's causing the extruder max speed or acceleration to be read as very low. You could try re-typing those lines.

                                  You don't need the double Z values in any of those lines, because the Z axis as a whole uses only one set of values.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • alanknightundefined
                                    alanknight
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                                    there's no gear/anything to see when it's printing

                                    I could try printing again without the heatsink/fan on to test the idea out?

                                    I increased the extruder acceleration to 750

                                    and decreased the retraction length to 2mm ( hadn't realised it was so high)

                                    I'll see how that does for the next print

                                    thanks for all the help

                                    Alan 🙂

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @alanknight
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                                      @alanknight said in printer keeps pausing during print?:

                                      there's no gear/anything to see when it's printing

                                      I could try printing again without the heatsink/fan on to test the idea out?

                                      I increased the extruder acceleration to 750

                                      and decreased the retraction length to 2mm ( hadn't realised it was so high)

                                      I'll see how that does for the next print

                                      thanks for all the help

                                      Alan 🙂

                                      Did you resolve the problem?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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