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    • resamundefined
      resam
      last edited by

      @appjaws which laser and laser control board did you buy?
      Most of them use a "simple" PWM signal between 0-5V to control the laser intensity.

      I doubt that your laser really has a 50%-ish PWM signal as "full power" signal...

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      • appjawsundefined
        appjaws
        last edited by

        I've just measured the voltage on the Fan0 pin and it is fluctuating between 5.5V - 10.7V.
        Do you think I am over driving the PWM input?
        The problem I had no information supplied with the 2000mw laser and control board that I bought.
        I have tried to find out the correct voltage but was unsuccessful.

        This is a picture of the laser I bought
        0_1533053993278_laser.jpg

        appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
        firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
        Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
        OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
        Simplify3D 5.1.2

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        • keyz182undefined
          keyz182 @appjaws
          last edited by

          @appjaws said in Problem getting a laser to work:

          I've just measured the voltage on the Fan0 pin and it is fluctuating between 5.5V - 10.7V.
          Do you think I am over driving the PWM input?
          The problem I had no information supplied with the 2000mw laser and control board that I bought.
          I have tried to find out the correct voltage but was unsuccessful.

          The ones I've seen have all been 5v PWM controlled, so maybe you're over-driving? Do you have a link to where you bought it? And/Or some high res images of the top+bottom of the PCB?

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          • appjawsundefined
            appjaws
            last edited by

            I bought it on ebay and the supplier has no information.
            I could take some photos of the board but I will need to dismantle my setup first.
            I wonder what size of resistor I could connect in series to reduce the actual voltage reaching the control board

            appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
            firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
            Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
            OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
            Simplify3D 5.1.2

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            • resamundefined
              resam
              last edited by

              Me, and others here on the forum use the HEATER_3 pin with a few extra components, instead of the fan output. Somebody even made a custom PCB for it.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Laser_PWM_control

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              • appjawsundefined
                appjaws
                last edited by

                I did start with that plan but could not get my lashup to work. I now have a better understanding so perhaps I'll try heater 3 again.
                Thanks for your help.

                appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
                firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
                Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
                OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
                Simplify3D 5.1.2

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                • appjawsundefined
                  appjaws
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                  I still haven't got the heater 3 solution as explained in the article "Controlling a PWM Laser with the Duet Board" The diagram indicates that the expansion header pin 8 is heater 3 but I have a constant 3.29 volts between that and pin 2 which is grd.
                  So I am wondering if the old version 6 boards, which I am using, have the same pin assignments as the version 2 boards.

                  So I have reverted to using the fan connector with the output reversed and a pull-up 1K resistor connected to +5V.
                  This is the results of checking the voltage at different S values.
                  Svalue Voltage Laser
                  0 4.4
                  10 2.58
                  11 2.47
                  13 2.33 ON
                  15 2.27
                  20 2.19
                  40 2.05
                  60 1.97
                  80 1.88
                  100 1.77
                  120 1.64
                  140 1.51
                  160 1.39
                  180 1.27
                  200 1.14
                  220 1.08
                  240 0.87
                  250 0.78
                  252 0.77
                  254 0.75
                  255 0.74 OFF

                  The increasing S values at the top end result in the power of the laser reducing.
                  Clearly I have something wrong but I am at a loss as to what to do next.

                  appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
                  firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
                  Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
                  OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
                  Simplify3D 5.1.2

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                  • keyz182undefined
                    keyz182 @appjaws
                    last edited by

                    @appjaws said in Problem getting a laser to work:

                    So I am wondering if the old version 6 boards, which I am using, have the same pin assignments as the version 2 boards.

                    By this, do you mean this board? - https://reprap.org/wiki/Duet_Wiring#Duet_0.6

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                    • appjawsundefined
                      appjaws
                      last edited by

                      yes that is the original board on my ormerod

                      appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
                      firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
                      Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
                      OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
                      Simplify3D 5.1.2

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                      • keyz182undefined
                        keyz182 @appjaws
                        last edited by

                        @appjaws said in Problem getting a laser to work:

                        yes that is the original board on my ormerod

                        In that case, yes, the pinouts are different. I'm not sure if the circuit will need modification or not on there either.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @keyz182
                          last edited by

                          Heater 3 will be on a different pin of the expansion connector, but otherwise the same arrangement should work.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • appjawsundefined
                            appjaws
                            last edited by

                            What pin will it be on?

                            appjaws - Core XYUV Duet Ethernet Duex5
                            firmware 3.5.0-rc.4 Web Interface 3.5.0-rc.4
                            Ormerod 1-converted to laser engraver, Duet wifi
                            OpenSCAD version 2024.03.18
                            Simplify3D 5.1.2

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              See https://reprap.org/wiki/Duet_pinout

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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