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    • morksterundefined
      morkster
      last edited by

      Hi,

      My duet wifi will only calibrate up to 0.108 accuracy and if I then look at M665 values, arm length is way off showing 223 whereas the actual length is 215.

      I have a kossel mini with linear guides and ir sensor in the effector.

      Also my mesh leveling is erratic at best, but is very accurate if I run the mesh leveling with same settings twice.

      I really have no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore.. Delta's geometric values are within tolerances. Anyone familiar with these weird results and able to help?

      0_1537488832320_Map1.png 0_1537488873238_Map2.png

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      • morksterundefined
        morkster
        last edited by

        .ENOYNA ..PMUB

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          It would be easier to diagnose the problem if you can post a height map produced using a finer grid.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • morksterundefined
            morkster
            last edited by

            0_1537742466973_heightmap.xlsx

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            • morksterundefined
              morkster
              last edited by morkster

              Hope this helps. As you can see the heightmap is not very secure. Problem is that if I rerun it show about the same results.

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              • morksterundefined
                morkster
                last edited by

                Calibration results:

                Calibrated 6 factors using 10 points, deviation before 0.091 after 0.080

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                • morksterundefined
                  morkster
                  last edited by

                  [0_1537778406100_heightmap.csv](Uploading 100%)

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                  • morksterundefined
                    morkster
                    last edited by

                    0_1537778478871_heightmap.xlsx

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                    • morksterundefined
                      morkster
                      last edited by

                      does this help?

                      drives me nuts, i am trying everything but at the brink of just giving up, don't know what else i can do

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by dc42

                        Please upload your height maps exactly as they come downloaded from the Duet, not re-exported from Excel.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • morksterundefined
                          morkster
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 said in DuetWifi Delta calibration and mesh issues:

                          load your height maps exactly as they come downloaded from the Duet, not re-exported from Excel.

                          Okay, over the weekend I took the whole thing apart and rebuilt the printer using as low tolerances as possible (replaced on linear rail, added extra supports in the corners etc..). I'm running a separate cable to the IR sensor to remove any potential static. Attached the resulting height map on a surface that is not entirely flat, but not as bad as the height map shows. I'll also attach the height map ran on a glas surface.
                          Settings used for this heightmap:
                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P1 H8 A2 F200 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z-1.73 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 R75 S10 ; Define mesh grid

                          bed.g:
                          M561 ; clear any bed transform, otherwise homing may be at the wrong height
                          G31 X0 Y0 ; don't want any probe offset for this
                          G28 ; home the printer
                          G30 P0 X-73.6 Y-42.5 Z-99999 ; X tower
                          G30 P1 X0 Y-75 Z-99999 ; between X and Y towers
                          G30 P2 X73.6 Y-42.5 Z-99999 ; Y tower
                          G30 P3 X73.6 Y20 Z-99999 ; between Y and Z towers
                          G30 P4 X0 Y75 Z-99999 ; Z tower
                          G30 P5 X-73.6 Y20 Z-99999 ; between Z and X towers
                          G30 P6 X-36.8 Y-21.25 Z-99999 ; half way to X tower
                          G30 P7 X36.8 Y-21.25 Z-99999 ; half way to Y tower
                          G30 P8 X0 Y42.5 Z-99999 ; half way to Z tower
                          G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6 ; centre, and auto-calibrate 6 factors

                          0_1538381259384_heightmap.csv

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                          • morksterundefined
                            morkster
                            last edited by

                            0_1538383946241_heightmap_glass.csv

                            This was run with following settings:

                            ; Z-Probe
                            M558 P1 H20 A1 F200 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z-1.73 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            M557 R75 S10 ; Define mesh grid

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              What was the surface you used when you generated the first height map? It looks to me like the IR sensor gives very poor results with that surface.

                              The glass one is much better, but the IR sensor is still giving less than ideal results. What was below the glass, and was there any coating on the glass?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • morksterundefined
                                morkster
                                last edited by

                                Hi, I was using aluminium printbed coated with black spray paint on the first heightmap. On the second run I put a borosilicate glass surface on top of the painted surface without any coating.

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                                • morksterundefined
                                  morkster
                                  last edited by

                                  I have tried on easy peelzy but getting similar results as the first heightmap.

                                  I just replaced my IR sensor this weekend, but does not show any changes in results.

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                                  • morksterundefined
                                    morkster
                                    last edited by

                                    i think i solved it...

                                    any black surface makes the ir sensor useless. i purchased white buildtak and all my problems are gone.

                                    i tried:

                                    black spraypaint
                                    easy peelzy
                                    black buildtak
                                    black pei
                                    all the above with glass

                                    nothing worked

                                    regards and thanks

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Can you confirm that the IR sensor you are using is the differential Mini IR sensor, that I sell through Escher3d.com and is also dole by duet3d.com and their distributors? It should work with black surfaces, unless you have a very old sensor. I have recently tested it with black PrintBite.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • morksterundefined
                                        morkster
                                        last edited by

                                        The ir sensor is the one sold on 1233d.nl. This one does not seem to be the same one sold on duet3d.com (picture looks different). I've ordered the one from duet3d and hope that one will work better, as even on the white PEI sheet, the results fluctuate.

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