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    • bartolomeusundefined
      bartolomeus
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      Thanks for the tip. I'll llook into those aswell.

      I have done dome reading prior to my post, however threads tend to get very technical to the point that I get lost.
      I've also read the wiki recommendations. Problem is I don't have a clue how much holding torque the printer needs.
      Also, I don't know how to compare motor specs. The stepperonline motor looks nice as I can run it at a lower amperage for the same torque as the wantai. However, the wantai has lower inductance (at least on paper). So, how do I compare these motors?

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      • dc42undefined
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        Have you read https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors ?

        This one
        https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/hybrid-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-59ncm-84ozin-2a-42x48mm-4wires-w-1m-cable-and-connector-17hs19-2004s1.html is also a good match for the generation 2 Duets.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • bartolomeusundefined
          bartolomeus
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          @dc42:

          Have you read https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors ?

          This one
          https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/hybrid-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-59ncm-84ozin-2a-42x48mm-4wires-w-1m-cable-and-connector-17hs19-2004s1.html is also a good match for the generation 2 Duets.

          Yes, I did read that. Based on that, I am looking for Nema 17 1.8 degree motors with <4mh iductance. However it still doesnt clear everything up (for me). If you have two motors that fit the criteria, is lower inductance better or lower amp rating? However, thanks for that tip, it didnt show up in my search on that site.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            @dc42:

            Have you read https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors ?

            This one
            https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/hybrid-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-59ncm-84ozin-2a-42x48mm-4wires-w-1m-cable-and-connector-17hs19-2004s1.html is also a good match for the generation 2 Duets.

            I'm glad you've linked those David, as those are the motors I chose for my i3 build, and I went for the 0.9 degree version for my CoreXY.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              On a Cartesian printer the inductance isn't normally very critical. It's more of a concern on deltas using 0.9deg motors.

              On the page I linked to there is a link to a spreadsheet, which you can use to check whether the motors will provide full torque up to the maximum speed you are interested in.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • bartolomeusundefined
                bartolomeus
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                @dc42:

                On a Cartesian printer the inductance isn't normally very critical. It's more of a concern on deltas using 0.9deg motors.

                On the page I linked to there is a link to a spreadsheet, which you can use to check whether the motors will provide full torque up to the maximum speed you are interested in.

                Thanks for clarifying. Regarding 0.9 degree steppers in the post above, I read that for a CoreXY there really isnt an difference in print quality. Or, as I am geeting new motors, I might as well get 0.9 degree steppers?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  I wondered that myself. In the end I decided to go for a 24v system and 0.9 motors and figured that would help even out any loss in torque and might provide slightly better surface quality. The price was virtually the same.

                  Using that spreadsheet in the choosing your motors wiki page I should be getting around 150mm/s peak and 125mm/s worst case with the 0.9 motors, and 250/180 for the 1.9. That's not bad at all, and that's pretty close to what I found when I went through all those calculations manually when I was choosing them. That spread sheet sure makes things easier though!

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  • bartolomeusundefined
                    bartolomeus
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                    Thanks guys. Searching around the internet, discussions about 0.9 vs 1.8 are highly theoretical, I haven't seen any proof of an advantage of one over ther other (for X and Y on a CoreXY). Question remains, how much holding torque does my printer actually need. There isn't much info on that. I found one mention of a mendel printer requiring app. 13.7 N·cm torque, and one recommendation for at least 45N·cm torque for a HEVO. So, I am going to order the ones recommended by DC.

                    The openbuilds motors look nice, but they are in the US, so shipping and customs costs really add up to the total cost.

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                    • jiusrugokundefined
                      jiusrugok
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                      You can have a look at this one:
                      https://www.oyostepper.com/goods-50-Nema-17-Stepper-Motor-Bipolar-59Ncm-84ozin-2A-42x48mm-4-Wires-w-1m-Cable-Connector.html is also a good match for the generation 2 Duets.

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @jiusrugok
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                        @jiusrugok I'd guess that as the last post was 9 months ago, the OP will have found something by now. ☺

                        Ian
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