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    • chrishammundefined
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      What firmware version are you using? Does the heater heat up at all?

      Duet software engineer

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      • Napalm1432undefined
        Napalm1432
        last edited by Napalm1432

        i'm not sure about the version nr, but it's the latest version before the update where you get a config_override.g when using the M500 command, Yes it does try to heat it up
        Edit: It would be V1.16

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        • dc42undefined
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          @napalm1432 said in Heater fails when starting print:

          i'm not sure about the version nr, but it's the latest version before the update where you get a config_override.g when using the M500 command, Yes it does try to heat it up
          Edit: It would be V1.16

          I remember fixing a bug some time ago that caused a similar symptom, so I suggest you upgrade the firmware.

          The A value for heater 1 looks too low. It's normally at least 300.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • Napalm1432undefined
            Napalm1432
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            After updating firmware, can i just put in my config.g and everything should work the same? or are there other changes i need to keep in account?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @Napalm1432
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              @napalm1432 said in Heater fails when starting print:

              After updating firmware, can i just put in my config.g and everything should work the same? or are there other changes i need to keep in account?

              Go to https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md and read the upgrade notes for the firmware version you want to install and all the ones before it that you are skipping.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • Napalm1432undefined
                Napalm1432
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                That's gonna be a night of reading 😛 but will do 🙂

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @Napalm1432
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                  @napalm1432 said in Heater fails when starting print:

                  That's gonna be a night of reading 😛 but will do 🙂

                  You can skip the lists of changes unless you are interested, it's the Upgrade Notes sections that are important.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • Napalm1432undefined
                    Napalm1432
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                    I notice on the wiki on how to install new firmware the instructions all say Duet 2 Wifi, but, i did see i need other files for the duet0.8.5, which i downlaoded, do i just follow the instructions for duet2wifi, using the firmware for 0.8.5duet ?

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      Yes, use the RepRapFirmware.bin file from the 2.02/1.22 release. You can use either the DuetWebControl 1.22.3 file in that release, or you can try 1.22.5 which is likely to be compatible too.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • Napalm1432undefined
                        Napalm1432
                        last edited by Napalm1432

                        okay, i updated the firmware to V1.2, and am tuning the heater again, but everytime i get an error, Auto tune cancelled because target temperature was not reached, But it stops heating at about 160C while it's still rising

                        EDIT: I also just realised, i use a 12V power supply, and the heater cartridge SHOULD be 12v as well, but what happens if the heater cartridge is rated at 24v?

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @Napalm1432
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                          @napalm1432 said in Heater fails when starting print:

                          EDIT: I also just realised, i use a 12V power supply, and the heater cartridge SHOULD be 12v as well, but what happens if the heater cartridge is rated at 24v?

                          That would account for my earlier observation, that the A value you got from heater tuning is too low. If you have a multimeter, you can measure the resistance of the heater cartridge. It should be about 5 ohms for a 12v 30W cartridge, and about 19 ohms for a 24V 30W cartridge.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • Napalm1432undefined
                            Napalm1432
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                            Okay so i checked, and yes, i did use a 24v one, i have multiple parts lying around, and assumed it was 12v, luckily i did have a 12V one, so i did the tuning with that, tested it out and it worked!!
                            However, i had to extend the wires of the heatercable, and i did this after tuning and testing, and now i get an error again that the temperature rises to slowly (not the expected 0.7c/sec (i already changed the dead time value, first it was 1.6c/sec)).
                            Do i have to retune the heater after extending the cable?

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                            • dc42undefined
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                              @napalm1432 said in Heater fails when starting print:

                              Do i have to retune the heater after extending the cable?

                              Yes if the cable has a significant amount of resistance, e.g. more than 0.5 ohms.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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