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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Please can you both post your config.g, homez.g and homeall.g files.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • jstevewhiteundefined
        jstevewhite @dc42
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        @dc42 - I just want you to remember, as you look through my crufty, constantly-noodled, experimental config.g, that you asked for this pain >:) hehehe

        config.g:

        ; Configuration file for My Printer
        ; Communication and general
        M111 S0 ; Debug off
        M550 PRailCore2 ; Machine name and Netbios name (can be anything you like)
        ;M551 Pmyrap ; Machine password (used for FTP)
        ;*** If you have more than one Duet on your network, they must all have different MAC addresses, so change the last digits
        M540 P0xBE:0xEF:0xDE:0xAD:0xFE:0xEE ; MAC Address
        ;*** Wifi Networking
        M552 S1 ; Enable WiFi
        M555 P2 ; Set output to look like Marlin
        M575 P1 B57600 S1 ; Comms parameters for PanelDue

        G21 ; Work in millimetres
        G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
        ;M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

        ; Axis and motor configuration
        M584 X0 Y1 Z5:6:7 E3:4:8:9 ; Map Z to drivers 5, 6, 7 ; Define unused drivers 3,4,8 and 9 as extruders
        ;M584 X11 Y10 Z5:6:7 E3:4:8:9 ; Map Z to drivers 5, 6, 7 ; Define unused drivers 3,4,8 and 9 as extruders (servos)

        ; M584 X11 Y10 ; (smartsteppers)
        M667 S1
        M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards (change to S0 to reverse it)
        M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
        M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 goes forwards
        M569 P5 S1 ; Drive 5 goes backwards
        M569 P6 S1 ; Drive 6 goes backwards
        M569 P7 S0 ; Drive 7 goes backwards
        ;M569 P10 S1
        ;M569 P11 S0

        ;Leadscrew Locations:
        M671 X-10:-10:273 Y24:228:122 S7.5 ; Calibrated Front left, Rear Left, Right S7.5 is the max correction

        M92 X160 Y160 Z1600 ; set steps/mm for 1/16; later changes in M350 will be adjust0d
        M92 E800:800 ; set steps/mm for 1/16; later changes in M350 will be adjusted.
        ;M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E16 I1 ; set 16x microstepping with interpolation
        ;M350 X64 Y64 Z128 E16 I1 ; set 128 microstepping for axes, 64 for extruder "with interpolation
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; set everything to 1/16, with interpolation.
        M574 X1 Z0 S0 ; set homing switch configuration (x,y at min, z at max)
        M574 Y1 S1
        M906 X1500 Y1500 Z800 E1000:800 ; Set motor currents (mA)
        ;M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1000 E1200:1200 ; old NEMA23
        ;M906 X580 Y580 Z1000 E1200 ; new 0.9 NEMA23
        M201 X2500 Y2500 Z60 E1000:1000 ; Accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M203 X24000 Y24000 Z1200 E3600:3600 ; Maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M566 X500 Y500 Z120 E600:600 ; Maximum jerk speeds mm/minute
        M208 X242 Y240 Z245 ; set axis maxima and high homing switch positions (adjust to suit your machine)
        M208 X0 Y0 Z-0.5 S1 ; set axis minima and low homing switch positions (adjust to make X=0 and Y=0 the edges of the bed)

        G21 ; Work in millimetres
        G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

        ; Thermistors
        M305 P0 T100000 B3950 R4700 H0 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the bed thermistor ADC correction
        ;M305 P1 T100000 B3950 R4700 H0 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the first nozzle thermistor ADC correction
        ;M305 P2 T100000 B4240 R4700 H0 L0
        M305 P1 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 (Slice Engineering)
        ;M305 P2 T100000 B4240 R4700 H0 L0
        M305 P103 X6 S"Chamber" ; virtual heater to show chamber temp

        ;M301 H1 P26.5370 I1.4191 D124.0605 T0.50 S1.0
        ;M307 H1 A587 C47.9 D3.1 B0 S1.0 ; auto-tune values from M303 H1 P0.4 S265 with fan on S200 for deltaprintr.mini
        ;M307 H1 A516 C180 D12.4 B0 S1.0 ; auto-tune values from M303 for fake B3
        ;M307 H1 A468 C150.1 D6.5 B0 S1.0 ; fake B3 also
        ;M307 H1 A479.0 C108.6 D5.6 B0 S1.0 ; stubby
        ;M307 H1 A270.7 C90.4 D6.7 B0 S1.0 ;Heater 1 model: gain 270.7, time constant 68.4, dead time 6.7, max PWM 1.00, in use: yes, mode: PID
        M307 H1 A569.0 C285 D4.5 B0 S1.0 ;Heater 1 model: gain 559.4, time constant 283.4, dead time 4.5, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 24.4, mode PID, inverted no, frequency default
        M307 H0 A90 C700 D10 B0 S1.0
        M307 H2 A270.7 C90.4 D6.7 B0 S1.0
        ;M307 H1 A388.8 C168.7 D12.0 S1.00 B0 ;
        M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; set duex4 "heater 3" to control the BLTouch
        M570 S360 ; Hot end may be a little slow to heat up so allow it 180 seconds
        M143 S285

        ; Fans
        M106 P0 H-1 ; disable thermostatic mode for fan 0
        M106 P1 T45 H1 ; Turns on fan 45C
        M106 P0 S0 ; turn off fans
        ;M106 P1 S0
        M106 P2 S0

        ; Tool definitions
        M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
        G10 P0 S0 R0 ; Set tool 0 operating and standby temperatures

        ;M563 P1 D1 H2
        ;G10 P0 S0 R0
        ;*** If you have a single-nozzle build, comment the next 2 lines
        ;M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
        ;G10 P1 S0 R0 X0 Y17 ; Set tool 1 operating and standby temperatures
        ;M92 E837 ;titan steps/mm
        ;M92 E663:663 ; Set extruder steps per mm

        ; Z probe and compensation definition
        ;*** If you have a switch instead of an IR probe, change P1 to P4 in the following M558 command
        ;M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 F900 ; Z probe is an IR probe and is used for homing Z
        ;M558 P4 X0 Y0 Z1 I1 F900 ; inductive Z probe, inverted
        ;M558 P9 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F400 T6000 ; bl-touch
        M558 P4 C8 I1 ; OptiCon
        M307 H4 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; reserve heater 4 for BLTOUCH
        M307 H5 A-1 C-1 D-1
        M557 X30:210 Y30:210 S180 ; set mesh size

        ;*** If you are using axis compensation, put the figures in the following command
        ;M556 S78 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Axis compensation here

        M208 S1 Z-5 ; set minimum Z
        ;
        T0 ; select first hot end
        ;G31 X0 Y30 Z0.0 P1 ; Set the zprobe height and threshold (put your own values here)
        G31 X-4 Y30 Z0 P1 ; set Z offset for use with tool offset
        M564 H0
        M501 ; load config-override

        homez.g:

        G91 ; Relative coordinates
        G1 Z8 F200 ; Lower bed.
        G4 P500 ; Dwell for 500ms - to ensure bed is down
        G90 ; Absolute positioning
        G1 X125 Y125 F3000 ; Go to center of bed and probe Z height
        M401 ; Lower Z probe (BLTouch)
        G30 ; Calibrate Z-axis
        M402 ; Retract Probe
        ;G1 Z1 F200 ; Raise bed to 1mm.

        homeall.g:;

        homeall by executing individual axes homing macros
        M98 Phomex.g
        M98 Phomey.g
        M98 Phomez.g

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          You should remove the M401 and M402 commands from homez.g because deploying/retracting the probe is automatic. I don't understand why you have the G4 P500 command in homez.g, because the G1 XY command won't execute until the G1 Z8 command has finished.

          @jstevewhite said in Weird Bed Mesh Behavior after Z-Leveling:

          It's worth noting that if I do:
          power on
          G28
          G32
          G32
          G28 Z
          G29
          I get the -0.1 here. But if I do this:
          G32
          G28 Z
          G29
          The mesh no longer is offset -0.1.

          Are you quite sure you can reproduce that?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • jstevewhiteundefined
            jstevewhite @dc42
            last edited by

            @dc42

            The G4 P500 is in the wrong place there. I needed it for the servo I was using and it got inadvertently moved. I'll pull the M401 and M402, thanks. I should probably audit my configuration monthly because of all the experimentation I do 😄

            natewalk can reproduce it repeatedly. I only did it twice (the whole cycle, power on to bed 0.1mm low ) but it did do it both times. When the print that's currently running is done, I'll try it again and update.

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            • jstevewhiteundefined
              jstevewhite @dc42
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              @dc42 -

              power on
              G28
              G32
              G32
              G28 Z
              G29

              Ok, reproduction is easy. Every time I follow that procedure I get this map:

              Imgur

              It turned out to take more than a few G32/G28 Z/G29 cycles to return to the normal map, which is:

              Imgur

              But now, no matter how many times I run G28 Z, G32, or G29, I get the same ( good ) result.

              Note that our leveling probe and our mesh probe use the same bed points. Our general assumption is that the 1/4" MIC6 tooling plate is flat (which is born out by actually printing).

              Also, I have not tried a print with this map as I'm afraid of a nozzle crash.

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              • veng1undefined
                veng1
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                In the first height map, all locations are less than 0.0. What setting would move the center up to Z = 0.0?

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                • jstevewhiteundefined
                  jstevewhite @veng1
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                  @veng1 said in Weird Bed Mesh Behavior after Z-Leveling:

                  In the first height map, all locations are less than 0.0. What setting would move the center up to Z = 0.0?

                  That's the $64,000 question, eh? No setting changes between the first picture and the second.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @jstevewhite
                    last edited by dc42

                    @jstevewhite, please can you repeat those tests, but after each G28, G32 and G29 command (and after any individual G30 commands you do), run M122 and look at the "comp offset" value in the Move diagnostics. This is a new field that I added in firmware 2.03. Please check what value is reported there, and whether any nonzero values are related to the height offset shown in DWC.

                    I would like to get to the bottom of this before I do a 2.03.01 firmware release.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • jstevewhiteundefined
                      jstevewhite @dc42
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                      @dc42

                      We'll have to get @natewalck to provide that data. Somehow, mine suddenly stopped doing this. I repeated it fifteen or twenty times when Nate told me about it, and then for the last repetition you asked for. But somehow running M122 seems to have fixed it permanently. LOL. Not sure how that's even possible.

                      Changes: I took out the M401/M402 and the dwell. Nothing else except M122.

                      Now I power cycle, G28, G32, G32, G29 and get the proper map.

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                      • natewalckundefined
                        natewalck
                        last edited by

                        G28
                        G32
                        G32
                        G28 Z

                        Then for mesh:

                        G91
                        G1 Z5
                        M557 X40:290 Y42:332 S250
                        G29

                        Yielded this:
                        0_1561078483792_WithoutM122.PNG

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                        • natewalckundefined
                          natewalck
                          last edited by natewalck

                          Note: This does test did NOT use a G28 Z after the second G32 but before the G29, so it is not exactly the same as the post just before this one.

                          Doing the same thing, but with a M122 after EACH command yielded this:

                          0_1561079013869_WithM122.PNG

                          Also here is the M122 output after each command.

                          M122 After G28
                          0_1561079030629_M122_after_G28.txt

                          M122 After G32 First run
                          0_1561079035542_M122_after_G32x1.txt

                          M122 After G32 Second Run
                          0_1561079039717_M122_after_G32x2.txt

                          M122 After G29 (same commands as previous post)
                          0_1561079095120_M122_after_G29.txt

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                            • natewalckundefined
                              natewalck
                              last edited by natewalck

                              Here is the correct data:

                              config.g: https://github.com/natewalck/railcoreiiduet/blob/master/300ZL/sys/config.g
                              homeall.g: https://github.com/natewalck/railcoreiiduet/blob/master/300ZL/sys/homeall.g
                              homex.g: https://github.com/natewalck/railcoreiiduet/blob/master/300ZL/sys/homex.g
                              homey.g: https://github.com/natewalck/railcoreiiduet/blob/master/300ZL/sys/homey.g
                              homez.g: https://github.com/natewalck/railcoreiiduet/blob/master/300ZL/sys/homez.g

                              Doing the same exact process as in post # 18 (with the bed showing 0.1 too low):

                              0_1561083168859_WithM122.PNG

                              And here is the M122 output after each command:

                              After G28:

                              0_1561083216074_M122_after_G28.txt

                              After G32 run 1:

                              0_1561083226991_M122_after_G32x1.txt

                              After G32 run 2:

                              0_1561083235889_M122_after_G32x2.txt

                              After G28 Z:

                              0_1561083244610_M122_after_G28_Z.txt

                              After G29 command (As shown above):

                              0_1561083256472_M122_after_G29.txt

                              As you can see, the bed still appears ~ 0.1mm too low using the above sequence.

                              Also, I don't see "comp offset" anywhere in the M122 outputs. It shows no bed compensation being used at all.

                              Thanks!

                              Nate

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @natewalck
                                last edited by dc42

                                @natewalck said in Weird Bed Mesh Behavior after Z-Leveling:

                                Also, I don't see "comp offset" anywhere in the M122 outputs. It shows no bed compensation being used at all.

                                I guess you are not using firmware 2.03 then. Please repeat the tests using firmware 2.03.

                                When you home Z, you probe first at 500mm/min then at 50mm/min. What probing speed do you use when you run G29?

                                Edit: also you are using an old beta firmware version, which is unsupported.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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