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Changing WiFi access point How to re-Configure

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    A Former User
    last edited by 29 Nov 2016, 18:14

    The 3.3V regulator input voltage is 4.2V and the output voltage is 3.2V.

    Or maybe I will order a ATSAM4E8EA-ANRCT-ND from digikey for 11€.

    It's a pity because parts of the MCU are still working apparently.

    Seems like desoldering the chip without removing other surrounding components is the hardest part isn't it?

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 29 Nov 2016, 19:13

      The hardest part is desoldering the chip without lifting traces. As long as you don't jog the board when the solder is molten, the surrounding components shouldn't move. You definitely need a vacuum pickup tool, which is available very cheaply on eBay. and a good hot air desoldering tool with a square nozzle the right size for the chip,

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        A Former User
        last edited by 30 Nov 2016, 14:27

        Okay thanks for the information. I have two more questions:

        • Can the heat applied by the hot air desoldering tool be destructive to the traces or are the traces just sensitive for mechanical loads (if the solder is not fully molten?

        4. Drop the new processor on in the correct orientation using the vacuum pen, align it with the pads, and use the hot air tool to heat the pins all the way round simultaneously. Take care not to overheat the new mcu.

        • So there is no additional solder necessary?
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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 30 Nov 2016, 16:37

          The problem is that heat softens the adhesive that holds the copper to the substrate. So if you pull the chip off when the solder between some of the legs and the traces isn't molten, you may lift the trace.

          You shouldn't normally need any additional solder, provided you melt the solder on all the pads at once. If you do apply additional solder then you will most likely bridge some pins or pads. You can remove solder bridges using solder wick.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            A Former User
            last edited by 12 Dec 2016, 10:51

            I found someone who successfully replaced the mcu. On usb power it seems to work fine. I can access the DuetWebControl.
            However with the 24V power supply only the blue VIN led is on.
            I think another part is also damaged.

            Maybe because of the "12-24V Input, 5V 2A Output PWM Buck Converter" on page 3?
            https://github.com/T3P3/Duet/blob/master/DuetWifiv1.0/DuetWifi_Schematic.pdf

            It would help me a lot if you can have a guess what part to check.

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 12 Dec 2016, 13:31

              Is the 5V_EN jumper fitted?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                A Former User
                last edited by 12 Dec 2016, 17:17

                Sorry, I really forgot the jumpers…
                Thank you very much!

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 12 Dec 2016, 18:44

                  I just solder-bridged the blown 0603 size 125mA fuse F1.
                  It didn't protect the mcu, why not?

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                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by 12 Dec 2016, 21:06

                    It's impossible to protect the MCU completely against all the types of external short that can occur. The fuse does quite a good job, as evidenced by the fact that several users have blown the fuse but the microcontroller has survived. But we're always looking for things we can do to make the Duet WiFi even more robust, and in the most recent PCB revision we made another change to help the fuse do its job even better.

                    A solder bridge won't protect the board the way a fuse will. Better to fit another fuse, or even a resistor of a few ohms.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      A Former User
                      last edited by 13 Dec 2016, 16:18

                      That fuse is too expensive to get (shipping) and at the moment I don't need any other electronic components. Using a wider available fuse and a fuse holder like some people suggested is not a solution for me.

                      I searched for information about using a resistor. It's not that nice but it could probably protect more components if it's a high current short.

                      Does any resistor <10 ohms work better than nothing?
                      A new mcu is only 11€. So why not change it again if a short destroys it?

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                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by 13 Dec 2016, 19:45

                        The fuse not only protects the MCU, it also protects the VSSA trace and via on the PCB from burning out if you short VSSA to +12V or +24V. Such shorts seem to be surprisingly common, probably because of shorts in the hor end wring and/or faulty cartridge heaters that develop a short between the element and the case.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by 13 Dec 2016, 21:52

                          If PCB traces burn out, they stop being conductive, so you can throw away the whole board?

                          Do you have experience in using resistors as fuses?

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 13 Dec 2016, 22:11

                            @nokian:

                            Do you have experience in using resistors as fuses?

                            No, which is why we are using a genuine fuse even though it costs much more.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              hum3
                              last edited by 25 Mar 2017, 13:09

                              I tried covering the WIFI adapter with Aluminium foil but it was too sensitive for me and I only managed to get from -61db to -79db. So had to switch off router. to change access point. (I think part of problem might have been having too many access points with the same SSID - I am no longer doing that).
                              ps I went from a v old Duet - second production batch to this and it has been great - I actually just get on with printing.

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                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by 25 Mar 2017, 13:17

                                The new DuetWiFiServer will take the access point ssid and password from a file on the SD card, so this will no longer be an issue. Currently, you need to either get out of range of your router or temporarily turn off wifi on the router.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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